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DAL 88 Driver 10-05-2011 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1065313)
The word DPA is blocked automatically?

I'm not sure if it's automatic or if the post just gets deleted by a moderator. That's where all the references to "donuts" came from. It's a code word for DPA that doesn't violate the "terms and conditions." :rolleyes:

TenYearsGone 10-05-2011 03:06 PM

In other news:

Alaska is hiring.
SWA will Hire 100+.
Hawaiian is hiring.
AA recalling.
Delta???

TEN

Ball Breaker 10-05-2011 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1065316)
In other news:

Alaska is hiring.
SWA will Hire 100+.
Hawaiian is hiring.
AA recalling.
Delta???

TEN


I'm sure we're adding pilots for our network as well. Didn't we just place more additional 70/76 seaters recently! Hard to keep up with all that activity.

Carl Spackler 10-05-2011 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Fly4hire (Post 1064992)
And if that were the case the facts would bear it out as soon as the NDA info became public. The fact that NDA agreements continue must be either a testament to the veracity of the info given, and ALPA continuously vets it's worth, or we have had a long track record of incredibly naive, gullable people at the MEC, both fNWA and DAL :rolleyes:

This is exactly what is important for everyone to admit to themselves. You don't get to where we are with sharp non-naive people at the MEC. The most recent glaring example of such is our current scope language that is now so weak, ALPA cannot even defend the very language that they wrote. You can either admit it and try to get better, or continue to beat your chest about ALPA's victories of decades ago.

Carl

Carl Spackler 10-05-2011 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by nerd2009 (Post 1065000)
Carl,

And what a glorious day it was !:)

Now, can we do it again ?

Well first you have to have a union willing to ask. Instead, we have a union that communicates to us why snap backs are not good for the company.

Carl

buzzpat 10-05-2011 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1065316)
In other news:

Alaska is hiring.
SWA will Hire 100+.
Hawaiian is hiring.
AA recalling.
Delta???

TEN

True that...but we hired last year and those companies didn't.

Bucking Bar 10-05-2011 04:09 PM

Not sure we will see hiring based on the 2012 flight plan. We are down 9 jets with the DC9 retirements not being matched by equivalent MD90 flying.

The retirement of NWA's DC9's will create at least 100 extra pilots, even after the MD88/90 training slots.

FTDT and Slot Swap are expected by November, perhaps that will help.

Carl Spackler 10-05-2011 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1065072)
Personally I like premium pay over 75 hrs...as a small piece of work rule changes/ improvements. I dont see much downside (combined with fixing trip parking) and I think it is something of a furlough mitigator or said another way junior guy protection.

Totally agree Scambo.

Carl

Cycle Pilot 10-05-2011 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1065261)
FtB:

Given this is not the First Rodeo for any aviator, I will submit that a FO on the lowest paying jet in yr three plus of longevity should be able to afford a typical middle class house; 250K, two newer cars with payments of about 400 each, schooling for their children, a college fund, able to put the max per year in their 401K and be able to do everything that a typical manager mid-upper level at a normal corporation should be able to do. That equates to 140-155K a year. It also should go up significantly from there.

Most pilots DAL has hired in the last five years have been doing the military for 10+ years and or the civilian world for 7-15 years. The bulk of pilots hired would be mid to upper level managers on a different career track at a min.

I continue to purport that to attract the best you have to pay em like you respect em.

The idea of a pilots in his mid 40's sitting reserve on the 7ER or 330 making 6K a month with kids going to college is preposterous. That pilot has been doing this job for 20+ years and should be paid in kind. Same goes for the 7ERA that sits reserve and makes 155K gross a year and is in his mid to late 50's.

Very well written, acl. FTB is smoking something. $100K house? Even with the housing market depressed, we couldn't even touch a decent condo for $100K!

scambo1 10-05-2011 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1065249)
Just quoting you but not for any other reason but to add to the discussion.

One thing that creeps in to my mind with the talk of AMR and a possible CH11 is the:

RA and Co will want labor peace with us. I would not be overly surprised to see a extension offer with pay and a few contract fixes thrown our way. Just put you mind around the possibility, and what you would expect out of it. No need to comment, but just think about that.

I have no info, it is just as though that I figured I would share. I do not want it to catch anyone off guard.

Also make sure everyone you are flying with fills out the survey.!!!!


I hate north guys....PAY UP!!!!:D


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