I read Sinca's comment differently. The reality is 07 or later hires ( and even some NWA 01 hires) are sitting in the bottom 10-15% of a 12,000 pilot seniority list.

Doesn't matter what aircraft your on. Expect to fill in the blanks. More so if your on a senior aircraft/base.

That said. Sorry for those who are feeling the shake up.

This is a message board. We are pilots. We're geared to b#tch whether we saw it coming or not.

The Fly DC Jets Choir will send you a welcome packet. As soon as they pick their hearts up off the floor.

Telex is fine, the MD-88 cockpit is actually very quiet. Until it's not. Usually when your window seals but just be patient because once it goes off like a shotgun everything will be fine. Until you takeoff again.

Welcome to the MD-88. And remember the MD-88 don't care, it doesn't give a...

Try looking at already holding a line on a wide body, when you bid it, in seniority, in your home town and being displaced down three categories since then. From status quo this merger has already cost Delta's early 07 hires about $60,000 each (offset by the stock). They got nothing like STATUS QUO. They were slotted in behind smaller jets in northern bases and guys on furlough. As those DC9's went away and routes were shifted towards cities that actually had growing O&D markets the results were inevitable.

What would have made this palatable is if growth & retirements took the pain out. That isn't happening (and that's Delta, managed by Northwest's, fault, not yours or mine ... we've done our jobs well)

Hey look, you & I agree. This merger really, truly, sucked. There is absolutely nothing either of us can do about it, but quit (which is an option I consider carefully with every displacement bid). Until we either find other jobs that are better, or this job gets better, everyone has the same reaction to my beeyatching & your offense ... "Jimmy Crack corn and .... ."

So you like Bud Light, Stella, Craft Beers, wine of just checking out the girls? See ya' in 15. Rant over.

Agree, I'm sitting on the bottom and just got MD'd for the third time in as many years. I can't live in base and if I lived in ATL, would not be happy with the backwards momentum there.

So, if you can't hold a line, bid reserve in higher paying equipment. I went a slightly different way this MD choosing smaller equipment in the hopes of getting a line. Will be close, until they add more folks later.

Very manly.

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Just go ahead and focus on your callouts. "I'll take second break" and "I'll do the landing over there."

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I've wondered about that. Will we really benefit, or will we be required by the JV to give them half the work no matter what? Are we even "allowed" to grow beyond our current ratios?

Fig, we're hear for you. It's just us. We're listening.

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Seriously, what happened?

There's no money in Florida. Or cargo. Or the west coast.

Amen, brother!

Gloopy,

Best I can tell, the JV is a "good faith" agreement, the compliance provisions are so loose that Air France / Alitalia are currently well over 50% and nothing can be done about it until mid 2015. ALPA responds truthfully, "management is not out of compliance."

I like the idea of the capacity sharing / productivity sharing. No one has told me why we expanded the look back to three years. One year (12 months) was sufficient to allow for seasonal variation.

I expect the deal will be modified several times before we ever reach the point where it could be grieved. So, management can do what ever they want to do.