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tim123 11-22-2011 09:15 AM

[QUOTE=forgot to bid;1089435]Very manly.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2/bobbywn/dnpk.jpg
Why does the boeing man-plane fly with the nose gear door opened?:cool:

DeadHead 11-22-2011 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1089410)
I use Telex 750's so I would think the 850's are fine. Welcome to the "Mad Dog"!

Works on most aircraft, but the 850s won't work on every ship.

80ktsClamp 11-22-2011 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1089432)
Try looking at already holding a line on a wide body, when you bid it, in seniority, in your home town and being displaced down three categories since then. From status quo this merger has already cost Delta's early 07 hires about $60,000 each (offset by the stock). They got nothing like STATUS QUO. They were slotted in behind smaller jets in northern bases and guys on furlough. As those DC9's went away and routes were shifted towards cities that actually had growing O&D markets the results were inevitable.

What would have made this palatable is if growth & retirements took the pain out. That isn't happening (and that's Delta, managed by Northwest's, fault, not yours or mine ... we've done our jobs well)

Hey look, you & I agree. This merger really, truly, sucked. There is absolutely nothing either of us can do about it, but quit (which is an option I consider carefully with every displacement bid). Until we either find other jobs that are better, or this job gets better, everyone has the same reaction to my beeyatching & your offense ... "Jimmy Crack corn and .... ."

So you like Bud Light, Stella, Craft Beers, wine of just checking out the girls? See ya' in 15. Rant over.

Thank you, Bar. :) Saved me a lot of typing.

80ktsClamp 11-22-2011 10:08 AM

[QUOTE=tim123;1089465]

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1089435)
Very manly.

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2/bobbywn/dnpk.jpg
Why does the boeing man-plane fly with the nose gear door opened?:cool:

It doesnt go far! I saw one last year pass over my house dumping fuel because the nose gear didnt go up.

LeineLodge 11-22-2011 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by DeadHead (Post 1089466)
Works on most aircraft, but the 850s won't work on every ship.

What happens to make them not work? Lots of feedback/squeal?

I've found 3 or 4 737's that do that as well with the 850's. On those, I've just worn the headset, and used the hand mic when necessary.

Anything to avoid the dreaded single-cup DC headclamp.

fishguy79 11-22-2011 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1089439)
There's no money in Florida. Or cargo. Or the west coast.

Or inernational anymore! Time to codeshare /;v entire operation and be done with it

flyallnite 11-22-2011 10:29 AM

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The point here is not that this creep managed to keep his job for 3 years.

The point is that a MIDDLE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL MAKES $170,000 A YEAR... PLUS RETIREMENT, HEALTH, HOUSING ALLOWANCE, AND OH YES, ONLY WORKS 8 MONTHS A YEAR!!!:mad:

Something to think about when your co workers tell you we can't expect much in this next contract... After all, the economy sucks!


Lake Forest School District 67 Superintendent Harry Griffith said "we made a mistake" in the way the district handled the arrest and conviction of Deer Path Middle School Principal John Steinert in 2009 on misdemeanor harassment charges of transmitting sexually explicit messages and a lewd photo to a 22-year-old Lake Forest College student at the time.

When the Chicago Tribune contacted Griffith for its story on Thursday, they indicated an unredacted police report from the Gurnee Police Department was available that revealed the specific allegations about Steinert.

"We sure didn't know that until yesterday," Griffith said Friday afternoon. "If we had this information earlier, it would have been a different outcome to the remediation process we took."

Upon obtaining a copy of the unredacted police report with assistance from the Lake Forest Police Department, Griffith suspended Steinert and placed him on leave with pay. Steinert, 40, who has worked for the district for nearly six years, earns $170,000 a year. (See the attached redacted version).

Griffith said the board of education will meet in executive session at 5 p.m. Sunday to discuss Steinert's employment status.

Griffith professed he had no previous experience in this area to fall back on in order to take a different course of action.

"It's not that we got lazy," he said. "We didn't know to follow up. We didn't know how an arrest report is followed up pre- and post-court."

Griffith said the district's internal investigation, conducted by the human resources department, relied on Steinert to be forthcoming about his actions.

"I thought he was being straightforward with us," Griffith said. "When it first happened, he admitted right away to us that he was guilty. But he was contrite in his answers, and in the investigation, he said general things about what he did but not specific."

When Griffith saw the unredacted report, "it was shocking to see," he said. "The fact that the language was so aggressive."

According to the Chicago Tribune article and Griffith, Steinert used his school district cellphone to transmit some sexually explicit text messages covering a nine-month period starting in May 2008 and ending in January 2009, when the victim filed charges. One asked the woman if she wanted Steinert to perform specific sexual acts with her. He also sent a photograph of his penis to her. Steinert was not on school grounds when he transmitted the text messages or photo, Griffith said.

Griffith said Steinert met the victim at Deer Path Middle School while she was there shadowing the school's resource officer. The police report states her internship started in March 2008 and ended in May 2008.

"She was a Lake Forest Police Department intern, and she was rotating throughout the community with the police," Griffith explained.

Griffith said there was no attempt to talk to the victim because she was not an employee of the district, nor did it involve staff members, students or a minor. Griffith said he was advised by the district attorney not to speak with her.

"It was not a school-related activity other than they met at the school," Griffith said. "If it was more school-related, we would have talked to her."

District 67 held a meeting Friday morning for parents after sending out an email Thursday night about Steinert. Administrators and social workers were on call to be available to students as needed.

Thrust Normal 11-22-2011 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1089507)
What happens to make them not work? Lots of feedback/squeal?

I've found 3 or 4 737's that do that as well with the 850's. On those, I've just worn the headset, and used the hand mic when necessary.

Anything to avoid the dreaded single-cup DC headclamp.

I've been using the 850's with very little problems. As stated some the planes do squeal but it's fairly rare. I just use the hand mics on those. I'd say I have one of those airplanes about once every four months or so.

I just with we had a descent interphone system to use on our planes. It would probably be one of the biggest safety enhancements in quite a while.

80ktsClamp 11-22-2011 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1089409)
You are getting bumped b/c you bid out of seniority! Even though you are an early '07 hire your seniority puts you about 60% 88B ATL. You are trying to stay on bigger/newer/higher paying equipment. Don't like, it bid what in reality you should be on!

Is holding something as a lineholder out of seniority? What a ridiculous statement.

ATL's seniority distribution has settled far out of alignment of any of the other bases. That is further skewed with this bid.

sailingfun 11-22-2011 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1089422)
When that happens to me, the Captain and I agree, THIS MERGER SUCKED FOR THE PILOTS, MANAGEMENT IS KILLING US WITH ALL OF THIS OUTSOURCING ... now lets go to the bar on the beach side and grab a beer before the put away all the free stuff ... hey'd you see that woman on the elevator ... she and her friends are at the pool.

There's always something to agree on.

What's worse is the "Delta's outsourcing is good for us, we need Delta to make money, lets duty in 30 minutes early and play stump the dummy trivia for five hours from the FOM VOLII and ARM errata"

Que one of the D-ALPA Trinity (ALPA, Sailing and the holy Slow) to tell us we held the 767 "out of seniority", that DTW and MSP are good for us since it creates a junior category as everyone not frozen (literally, or contractually) bids Atlanta.

Actually I pointed out exactly the opposite during the SLI discussions. It did not take a rocket scientist to look at the demographics of the pilots and the pilot bases each side brought to the merger to understand where and how the seniority was going to shift. Exactly what I predicted is happening and will continue to happen for several more years. The 3 junior bases will be DTW, MSP and NYC.


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