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Originally Posted by groundstop
(Post 626638)
You can't be serious??
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 626790)
100% Serious, and they even mentioned this earlier today on the conference call.
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Originally Posted by freightguy
(Post 626792)
You definitely got a good point. They cannot afford to look too bad this soon after the merger 'cause there may be more to come in a year or two (Alaska?).
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We sure don't need a merger while some of our guys are furloughed, or flow down to Compass, or another regional. They would be the worst kind of hostage.
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OK guys make what you want from this. I took the latest 10Q (April SEC) and came up with these numbers for a comparison of how we stand financially against the competition. In my simplistic analysis, it doesn't look good for UAUA and maybe LCC if it doesn't pick up next year. I think despite the capital markets being dried up I believe AMR, DAL, CAL will still have access to cash i.e. AMEX to the rescue! Make what you want of it. Sorry about the formatting. Someone got a lesson on how to insert a table?
Current Assets - Cash + Short term inv. - Current Liabilities - Est. Rev. 09 - Est. Earnings 09 DAL - $8.05 - $4.508 - $11.527 - $29.22 - $480M AMR - $5.362 - $2.864 - $8.908 - $20.61 - ($1.02B) UAUA - $4.857 - $2.457 - $7.205 - $16.87 - ($5.04B)!!! CAL - $4.383 - $2.648 - $4.648 - $12.85 - ($100M) USAir - $2.563 - $1.262 - $3.270 - $10.72 - ($1.26B) |
Originally Posted by bigdaddie
(Post 626806)
OK guys make what you want from this. I took the latest 10Q (April SEC) and came up with these numbers for a comparison of how we stand financially against the competition. In my simplistic analysis, it doesn't look good for UAUA and maybe LCC if it doesn't pick up next year. I think despite the capital markets being dried up I believe AMR, DAL, CAL will still have access to cash i.e. AMEX to the rescue! Make what you want of it. Sorry about the formatting. Someone got a lesson on how to insert a table?
Current Assets - Cash + Short term inv. - Current Liabilities - Est. Rev. 09 - Est. Earnings 09 DAL - $8.05 - $4.508 - $11.527 - $29.22 - $480M AMR - $5.362 - $2.864 - $8.908 - $20.61 - ($1.02B) UAUA - $4.857 - $2.457 - $7.205 - $16.87 - ($5.04B)!!! CAL - $4.383 - $2.648 - $4.648 - $12.85 - ($100M) USAir - $2.563 - $1.262 - $3.270 - $10.72 - ($1.26B) This looks good, but remember that this spike in fuel (double) is not accounted for by anyone, so the numbers are going to be a lot worse. |
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Is our first joint AE or APE for NWA guys in August effective January? Are they planning on telling us which A/C are going to be based where so we can plan our lives? Seems like we are only a couple of months away and have heard nothing from the company or union regarding this. I realize things are constantly changing but they must have a pretty good idea of which aircraft they want where. The 330 (which im on) is doing more flying out of ATL and JFK than DTW now, so it seems obvious that this plane will be leaving DTW.
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I had a 330 Capt. on my J/S last night. He is 60 and has signed up for the PERP/PIRP. If I were 60, or, turning 60 soon enough, I would certainly take the deal.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 626812)
This looks good, but remember that this spike in fuel (double) is not accounted for by anyone, so the numbers are going to be a lot worse.
I guess my providing the numbers here is to see who will out run the bear and who gets eaten. BD |
Originally Posted by kamsman
(Post 626814)
Is our first joint AE or APE for NWA guys in August effective January? Are they planning on telling us which A/C are going to be based where so we can plan our lives? Seems like we are only a couple of months away and have heard nothing from the company or union regarding this. I realize things are constantly changing but they must have a pretty good idea of which aircraft they want where. The 330 (which im on) is doing more flying out of ATL and JFK than DTW now, so it seems obvious that this plane will be leaving DTW.
Thanks |
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