Heard rumor of 21 guys from the north side accepting the early out program..... Going to have to be a lot more than that to do any good.

Yea...what he said...please clarify ACL...

That's ok. The other 280 will be make the decision in the last 48 hours. ;) :D

I think worst case is 150. IMHO. I am just looking at the staffing and what is needed. What benefits us now is the modeling that is showing a strong uptick in Q2 of 2010.
No one has said furloughs. They want to do what they can do avoid it, but this is putting us overstaffed at 1000+. I can see us running min staffing next summer and getting the job done. (they cannot do min staffing with more than 200 furloughs or so--Just my numbers nothing official) I do not believe there will be a huge furlough if it happens.
The number tossed around was 150 or so, but I am sure that depends on the amount of guys that will take the early out.

Also Super remember that a lot of the international lift will be shifted. This means that some of these cities that you see cut, not cut were going to swap from pre-merger metal.
Remember that there are going to be 4-5~ 744's pulled this fall. If that lift still exists it will need to be covered.
A good thing for us would be if they decided to use this crazy over staffing period to train everyone for the first AE. That would require an LOA so that we could have an AE prior to SOC, but in the end that would be great furlough mitigation.

A few things need to be decided to finalize the staffing model but for now we are way over staffed.

I am cynical and see the fact that we were making money for the year and IMHO will be way in the red before it is over. The fare sales are getting bigger which means less money coming in the door.
I hold out hope for the projected schedule for 2010 to stand, but I would not even bat an eyelash if they cut next summers lift too!

I am just being a realist.

The good and bad thing is our hub and spoke system. We really cannot cut more capacity than what has been announced. If we do the hubs become very inefficient. The bad thing is that if we need to cut more capacity then the way to be most efficient is with a hub closure.

They will want 100 seaters at DCI. For what we are seeing now we better get em here.

That DC-9 is not going to fly forever. I would love to see a DAL C-Series order out of Paris! (wishful thinking I know)

At least they have not sold cps yet.

IMHO a short furlough like this would be a great arguement to bring them over to our list. Saves the company money. It also opens us up to more furloughs....(no flow)

Well apparently not for AirTran... While its major competitors suffer, discount carrier AirTran Airways expects to have "one of the best years in the company's history," Chief Financial Officer Arne Haak told an investor conference Thursday.

AirTran CFO says carrier expects a good year - Yahoo! Finance

the question is what good would it do to furlough 1% of the pilot group, which are also the lowest paid? Doing so costs money also and brings alot of triggers with it. I just dont see them furloughing if its that small of a number.

You can't be serious??

Hope you are correct, but as I stated last week, this is the rumor that was floating around.
Look back 20 pages or so.
Also said it was not a great rumor but one none-the-less.

Given this history of airlines do you really think that we will not have some adjustment to the 2010 sked? I know I do.

The trigger for that few is less than 153 seats. Wait and see what comes out. It may be all for not if we get a good amount of PERPS and or a LOA with the ability to train guys for post-SOC starting this Sept. (Those would be good things for the bottom guys)
The path has been set, the results have not.