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georgetg 12-04-2011 03:12 AM

I think you should google A4A ;-)

Cheers
George

Timbo 12-04-2011 03:14 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1096172)
Good point, but the A4A's new 'Raison d'être' if you will, is to attempt to stop our own government from giving away the store WRT the US air transport industry, and also to attempt to stop our government from developing policies that are detrimental to the home team players.

One would think that such a group would be redundant, after all its OUR government, but considering that Washington has given away virtually everything of value to our economy and completely mismanaged everything else it's been involved with, well, you can see the need.

The A4A is anti labor too, but our government has emerged as by far the biggest threat to our existence...


I agree and you need look back no further than when they awarded the "New Air Force Tanker" contract to...Airbus! Until 60 Minutes called them on it.

And anyone remember what that True American Hero John McCain said, after 9-11, when UAL was about to go bankrupt? When asked by a reporter what would happen if all our Large International Carriers went under, he said, "Well, if they can't fly those rountes and make money, we'll just have to let the Foriegn Carriers fly them..."

And this jackarse's kid flys for American.

What a douche.

Think Cabotage can't happen? I'm counting on it happening in the next 5 to 10 years. I hope I'm wrong but I've seen nothing coming out of Washingto DC to make me think otherwise.

georgetg 12-04-2011 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by sinca3 (Post 1096164)
...Foreign airlines are growing at a significant rate, reinvesting earnings in their product and expanding their global presence at the expense of U.S. airlines, with troubling implications for the entire U.S. economy, the group says."
Seems our beloved CEO is talking out both sides of his mouth!! Maybe he didn't actually say this, but he is the chairman of the board. How can the association with which he is chairman put out something like this while continuing to "code share/JV with foreign airlines?!?!?!!!

Just wait till you see our JV with Virgin Australia...

Delta 1x 777-200
VA 3x 777-300

And that's our starting point....

Cheers
George

Timbo 12-04-2011 03:27 AM

Say what you will about Richard, but he's been in this business a long time (he was one of Frank Lorenzo's Lawyers when he took apart Eastern). He is definately covering all the bases by establishing links to many foriegn carriers, awaiting the end of the 51% ownership rules and Cabotage. Richard doesn't hate Pilots, he just Loves Money. He really doesn't care who flys what, as long as -he- makes Mo' Money!

That's the American way, right? So...where will all the Unemployed Americans go??

acl65pilot 12-04-2011 03:33 AM


Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1096190)
Just wait till you see our JV with Virgin Australia...

Delta 1x 777-200
VA 3x 777-300

And that's our starting point....

Cheers
George


Go read my last post on the subject of 1 E 7 & 8.

acl65pilot 12-04-2011 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1096194)
Say what you will about Richard, but he's been in this business a long time (he was one of Frank Lorenzo's Lawyers when he took apart Eastern). He is definitely covering all the bases by establishing links to many foreign carriers, awaiting the end of the 51% ownership rules and Cabotage. Richard doesn't hate Pilots, he just Loves Money. He really doesn't care who flies what, as long as -he- makes Mo' Money!

That's the American way, right? So...where will all the Unemployed Americans go??

It is more than money, he truly is a believer is open markets. He is a free market economist.

scambo1 12-04-2011 03:59 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1096197)
It is more than money, he truly is a believer is open markets. He is a free market economist.


What a bunch of ....:(

He's a big business big government economist.

HalinTexas 12-04-2011 04:26 AM

never mind

georgetg 12-04-2011 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1096195)
Go read my last post on the subject of 1 E 7 & 8.

I'm on my iPhone...sorry I missed your post,
+1 on all you said, but I think the VA JV is a revenue sharing JV whereas the AFKLM/AZ is a profit sharing JV.

Cheers
George

Carl Spackler 12-04-2011 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1096111)
... and no Carl, the DPA is not the answer. DPA can't be trusted until they back down from the tired justifications for last decade's outsourcing.

This is one of the things so hard to figure out about you Bar. Because you don't agree with just one of DPA assertions that our union operates in a conflicted manner, you still want to stick with them despite what you've written here:


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1095484)
IMHO management is indicating a reluctance to comply with the spirit of our agreement and D-ALPA's track record is clear ... the conversation about scope grievances always ends with "what can we get for that?"

Further, the JV language leaves negotiations open, such that further renegotiation can take place via a MOU, not subject to membership ratification, or even the vote of our Reps. In effect, the NCC, MEC Chair, or GCC can change the most critical part of our contract unilaterally.

And rather than try to do something different, you say this:


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1095484)
I gave up complaining about this because I could not figure out how to unscrew it.

Like I say, most times I just can't figure you out.

Carl


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