Unfortunately this shows a problem. Not everyone is in the "loop."

For those wanting to vilify Richard Anderson I would like to take you to task on that. Look at the facts:
1) He fought against Mike Levine and John Dasburg and argued against them taking Northwest to a strike in '98. After the strike Levine wanted to park the 74s and fill the pacific with used DC-10s. It was Anderson that argued and won (being appointed to CEO over him) to update the NWA fleet. 319/320s in place of 727s and 330s to replace the DC-10s.
2) He offered the NWA pilots a 10 percent raise after 9/11 without a fight, which is why I personally believe that we will see a SWA like contract mid next year.
3) When Anderson left NWA in October of '04 he left millions of dollars of NWA stock on the table. He knew what was coming down the pipe and wanted no part of it.
4) What Anderson made at United Health Care was multiple times more than what he is getting at Delta. He took a massive pay cut to come back to the airlines. Anybody that has ever heard him speak knows that he loves airplanes and does love this industry. He truly has a vision of building a world class airline. That is his motivation not money. Yes, he is cutting back and Delta is saving money/paying down debt, because, once again he is trying to build a financially stable airline.
5) Look at the rest of the industry. Tell me that every other wouldn't love to have Anderson as a CEO. DAL has posted a 3B profit in the last 18 months where AA has lost 1B. That is a 4B differential in a very short time. That's staggering!

Look at the rest of the industry:
-USAir-civil war between the east and west.
-United/Continental 10 year differential in relative seniority. Wait till that battle begins.
-AA-Sad. Truly poor and sorry management!
-Southwest- Let's see how this stapling of AirTran works.

Carl, before you refute my points, I'll admit I can't beat you in a debate however I am pro DPA but not because I see a ghost behind every management team decision but because I see Alpa as conflicted.

I'll take our management team over any in the industry.

It was widely reported at the time that Delta had to buy out Richard's remaining contract at UHC to get him to come to Delta, which cost about $15Million, so he's not doing this for free...

Wow! Did Tebow just make that happen? That was impressive.

Negative. I emailed Richard Anderson last summer, specifically about bringing our pay up to at least equal SWA. It took him about a month to respond. But his response clearly indicated that he thinks our current compensation is just fine and that, all things considered (claim, note, shared rewards, profit sharing, merger equity, etc.), we already exceed SWA.

Our CEO doesn't think we need anything like the increases it would take to bring our W2's up to SWA pilots W2's. Our union won't even acknowledge the extent of the difference in compensation. I don't think I'm going to hold my breath that we will see a SWA like contract by mid next year. I'd love to see it. But without anyone even trying to achieve it and a CEO who thinks we're already there, I don't think it's going to just magically happen.

Opus, that was a good post, and I think you are right about the SWA pay at the end of a section 6, which I think your insight to RA is pretty good....The thing to remember is that in 2002 when the NWA pilots got 10percent raise is we still had to negotiate a while for it, the raise wasn't immediately offered it just seemed really fast because at NWA we always had to go to amendable date plus a couple of years and quite often all the way to a cooling off period.That time they negotiated for a bit and came up with a TA pretty quickly instead of the full hoops of the Railway Labor Act like we usually did. I think things will go in the RA style that you framed.

Carl,

How much unsecured debt (the kind that gets wiped out in bankruptcy) does American have? What is their total debt? What is Delta's total debt?

Most importantly, why has American's PRASM performance lagged so far behind Delta for the last few years? Why are they losing business travelers to Delta?

You have just about shot any credibility you ever had with your vitriol, that is why I usually don't bother to respond to you. However, you made some bold assertions so come on ace, back up those assertions with facts.

What!!! They aren't even on FPL and they're posting. Or maybe FPL covers sunday too.

1. I dont recall anyone posting anything about RA.
2. I dont know any pilot that has done an FBI level profile on RA.
3. I dont know why anyone pulling a wikipedia resume written by RA would post it as proof of anything.
4. I would like our collective bargaining agent to come out in the open and state its contract goals, not we heard you loud and clear.

When I hear this from someone in ALPA,it scares the ******* out of me.We got screwed numerous times after ALPA put those words or something similar out in regards to MOA's or LOA's.

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