Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)

- Delta (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/)

- - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/delta/36912-any-latest-greatest-about-delta.html)

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazypilot (Post 1097645)

Where is the projected list from this last AE?? Thanks for info

And yes get GLOBAL ENTRY

I don't think it's out yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1097649)

I don't think it's out yet.

It's not..............

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1097380)

There's a place for trolls like you. It's called FI.:p

You've built a nice history undercutting the profession then complaining about the results you helped create...yep, must be time to blame your fellow pilots rather than look in the mirror! :D

You've built a history of staying on as an unelected MEC bureaucrat helping to undercut Delta pilots keeping us below our competitors and partners like SWA and Air France etc. You've done this by fighting to ensure management's spin gets properly disseminated to line pilots for the express purpose of crushing our hopes of ever leading this industry again. You've done it on full flight pay loss as well. You must be so proud.

Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheManager (Post 1097497)

I think that the ulcer that is burning a hole through his esophagus eminates from the knowledge and fact that in the future, ex-TWA pilots will be receiving large checks for career damages from ALPA.

Thus the insults.

Not making yourself very distinguished here slow. We can all see right through you.

No he certainly is not. The fact that he behaves this way as an unelected MEC bureaucrat enjoying max pay on full flight pay loss, makes it even worse.

Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1097511)

What a statement. The one thing I agree with is your statement by Sun Tzu. Why don't you read the whole book and find out the rest of his theory. What Sun Tzu said was that you need to know more than your enemy and you need to understand both the shape of the battlefield and the shape of your enemy. That takes study and thought. Not fantasy, but real work.

Really alfaromeo? Did you unelected MEC bureaucrats know more than your enemy when you crafted our Section 1 language that our own lawyers now say is so weak, they can't defend it? Did Sun Tzu write the chapter on how to write a MOU that keeps Delta pilots out of balance in our Joint Ventures for 3 years? Did Sun Tzu advocate doing so by specifically ignoring any input from the LEC reps and have a single unelected MEC bureaucrat sign off on this MOU?

Carl

I hate to see Carl so worked up all the time! Hey Carl tell us about the good old days when the FA's were hot and pilots were gods!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1097630)

They are only TSO'd if you use the internal ear buds. I have yet to see a pilot actually use them.

yup...for $605 you get a TSO headset for work, and an awesome set of noise cx earphones for DH, commuting, home and layover. If you dont get the TSO, which is only $80, you just wear the DC's when the feds are onboard or you are flying with a tool.

sailing...you aren't one of those guys checking for stickers are you??

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1097511)

How do I know exactly what long term debt American has and Carl has to read some stupid number out of the Fort Worth Star Telegram. I have no special talents beyond the average Delta pilot. I take the time to read financial statements, I take the time to listen to company webcasts all of them not just Delta, I take the time to study the industry and not just read the dreck on Motley Fool and Seeking Alpha or in the general business press. I merely went to Edgar, pulled up the last quarterly statement from American and read the number. It took me about a minute.

Not only that but I helped take the time to try to educate my fellow pilots about how to read these documents and what the underlying information means. This is studying the battlefield and knowing the enemy. If the average Delta pilot takes the time to read and understand these documents then they will have a better understanding of their negotiations than most union leaders in most other labor groups. Here is what is funny, we write a paper to show Carl exactly how to read what a company's long term debt is and he whines about how his expectations are being managed. Then when he tries to pontificate about debt at American, he can't even find out the real number. Irony at its best.

You'll all have to excuse alfaromeo here. He lied to us a few days ago and I called him on it. So, as always, he refuses to answer the original question and lashes out against anyone who questions the MEC bureaucrat. The following is for the others who are NOT trying to deflect and change the subject:

All data available on the respective corporate balance sheets as of 9/30/2011:

Total Assets: DAL = $43.0 Billion, AMR = $24.7 Billion
This makes AMR about 43% smaller than DAL. In other words, you need to multiply an AMR datapoint by 1.74 to make it comparable. For example, take AMR assets of $24.7 Billion and multiply it by 1.74 and you get DAL assets of $43 Billion. Now, lets start the comparisons:

Total Liabilities: DAL = $41.8 Billion, AMR = $29.6 Billion. Multiply $29.6 Billion by 1.74 and you get $51.5 Billion. That's $10 Billion more liability than they should have compared to Delta.

Long and Short Term Debt: DAL = $14.5 Billion, AMR = $11.7 Billion. Multiply $11.7 Billion by 1.74 and you get $20.4 Billion. That's $5.9 Billion more Long and Short Term Debt than they should have compared to Delta.

Delta Assets = $43.0 Billion, Liabilites = $41.8 Billion. $1.2 Billion LESS.
AMR Assets = $24.7 Billion, Liabilities = $29.6 Billion. $4.9 Billion MORE.

This is why I assert that AMR is where they are (bankruptcy court) because of a debt problem. NOT a lack of Joint Ventures and code share as alfaromeo asserts.

Again, all data readily available on the web if anyone wants to check it out for themselves.

Carl

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 1097521)

Why don't we take the 90M we got from the slot sale and put it as a down payment to buy Hawaiian Air?

About $66.5 million will go to USAirways as part of the slot swap transaction. Delta keeps the rest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1097511)

You call it managing expectations down because you don't want to take the time and energy to understand the reality of the situation you want to complain and moan until the rest of the world accepts your reality. A reality that only exists in your mind.

Nice way for an MEC bureaucrat to talk to the members that pay his flight pay loss...ain't it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1097511)

That tactic has been tried at numerous carriers over the last few years and the result is doodly squat. But hey, let's ignore reality and create our own little world.

The "tactic" that you so roundly criticize of fighting hard and demanding the best for your troops worked really well at SWA, UPS and FDX. But you call it "doodly squat". MEC bureaucrat-speak at its best.

Carl