Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
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No we don't, the alternative is to furlough those pilots. Is that what you really want? Be thankful that a foresighted individual realized the best method to prevent furloughs was via a layered approach. Layering in economic penalties to the company has served us very well since we got away from traditional no furlough clauses.
Strict no furlough clauses are absolutely worthless as we have seen before. But subtly layering economic penalties in the event of furloughs is a much more clever--and most importantly--effective approach.
Without those penalties, I'm certain we would have announced "seasonal" furloughs along with every network cutback the past couple of years.
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I don't know which airport you're talking about, but at BOG it was just one leg needed. Things can change, but when I went on the 757 to Bogota, the Captain and I had never been. The AQFO showed us the ropes on the way down from JFK, then deadheaded deviated and DHed back to ATL. The second time it was just the Captain who hadn't been, so the AQFO sat up front on the way down and DHed back with us the next day.
I can't see why the AQFO would let you go home with pay when he can be the one getting the good deal.
I can't see why the AQFO would let you go home with pay when he can be the one getting the good deal.
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ACL,
I don't doubt ATL 777 might move out completely, but couldn't the size of ATL 777 and DTW 777 be flipped vs closing ATL 777?
I ask, because what else would do a route like ATL-NRT?
FWIW 777 routes (by my best count, I might be missing some):
ATL-DTW
ATL-LAX
ATL-DXB
ATL-JNB
ATL-NRT
DTW-ICN
DTW-PVG
DTW-PEK
DTW-HKG
NRT-HKG
NRT-SIN
NRT-TPE
NRT-ATL
NRT-MSP
MSP-NRT
LAX-SYD
I don't doubt ATL 777 might move out completely, but couldn't the size of ATL 777 and DTW 777 be flipped vs closing ATL 777?
I ask, because what else would do a route like ATL-NRT?
FWIW 777 routes (by my best count, I might be missing some):
ATL-DTW
ATL-LAX
ATL-DXB
ATL-JNB
ATL-NRT
DTW-ICN
DTW-PVG
DTW-PEK
DTW-HKG
NRT-HKG
NRT-SIN
NRT-TPE
NRT-ATL
NRT-MSP
MSP-NRT
LAX-SYD
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Oh, & did anyone else notice that Delta is forecasted to make a $1 billion profit for the year of 2011? Considering the massive tsunami in Japan which caused a horrific nuclear meltdown, the ridiculous snowmegeddon in ATL, the East Coast blizzard, the East Coast hurricane, & the global economy teetering everyday, that profit is amazing. And it's happening with fuel prices over $100 per barrel.
Nothing is certain in this industry. That's the only thing that is guaranteed.
Profit does not prevent furloughs! How many quarters has UPS made a profit with guys on furlough?
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I don't know which airport you're talking about, but at BOG it was just one leg needed. Things can change, but when I went on the 757 to Bogota, the Captain and I had never been. The AQFO showed us the ropes on the way down from JFK, then deadheaded deviated and DHed back to ATL. The second time it was just the Captain who hadn't been, so the AQFO sat up front on the way down and DHed back with us the next day.
I can't see why the AQFO would let you go home with pay when he can be the one getting the good deal.
I can't see why the AQFO would let you go home with pay when he can be the one getting the good deal.
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My personal experience had been that the AQFO has let me go both times. Both were overnights, but the AQFO could have DH right back out. It was a great deal for me, as he turned my uncommutable 5 day in to a commutable 4 day where I got home 36 hours earlier. And I was still paid for my 5 day & got a PS seat home. 

Oh, & did anyone else notice that Delta is forecasted to make a $1 billion profit for the year of 2011? Considering the massive tsunami in Japan which caused a horrific nuclear meltdown, the ridiculous snowmegeddon in ATL, the East Coast blizzard, the East Coast hurricane, & the global economy teetering everyday, that profit is amazing. And it's happening with fuel prices over $100 per barrel.
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