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MoonShot 01-31-2012 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1126317)
No sierra;

I dont like TV, my wife likes to sleep with the tv on. So, she goes to sleep to some E lameness, I change the channel to top gear and turn down the volume and now she's an insomniac and its my fault. Weeemun!

If there was a Closer marathon, my wife would sleep through the whole thing, no matter how many days it was on. Switch to dogfights and BOOM, its like an alarm clock went off and she's up on the wrong side of the bed.

I don't really try to understand it Newk, I just accept that it is my fault. I'm ok with that:D

That's why we have only one TV and its NOT in the bedroom!

forgot to bid 01-31-2012 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by DFW Refugee (Post 1126495)
YES...PLEASE DO!!!

You can't crash half a cockpit, and you will also be
spending a lot of time doing post-incident paperwork
and interviews. Voice your professional concerns and
get it on the tape. Your comment indicates you know
what should be done...your Captain...not so much. :confused:

Be Safe!

You'd be a good Captain to fly with. :D

MoonShot 01-31-2012 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1126485)
I can understand 80 is something you see as reasonable but what is your category?

For me, 80 is too high for mine. What would I like to see? A calculation that is category contingent on a monthly basis. Some months a 4 day and SC imho should put one in bucket 2, maybe not in others. Which that'd be laughable on the 777.

So category contingent, not just using two categories for the entire fleet.
fwiw, looking just one the last day of the month's availability list in my category 63% of the pilots ended with a raw of less than 80 and that includes all of the pilots who had vacations and mil that added to their raw. 32% ended less than 50 and 11% of the group ended flying one 3 day or less. My bet barring an IROP will be 11% end with 0 flying in February.
According to ALPA the reason 80 was selected was because it'd be equal to five or six days of flying and a short call. My problem with that is five or six days of flying and a short call is 60-71 points, not 80. And again at 71 points that pilot is ahead of someone with 0, so if they get a 4 day they're going to end up with 115 before they get the "reprieve" the buckets are supposed to give and the pilot with 0 flies. That to me is too large a difference on a NB domestic category.



You can be very senior in this company and still be a plug in a category. Right now, I'm pretty senior as it is when it comes to reserve on my category. Getting more senior wouldn't give me any different schedule and it'd only change the RUO some. I don't agree with this in principle anymore than I agree with giving line holders ALV and the month off because of seniority.

I'd rather see a good QOL obtainable on reserve at 80% seniority in category rather than requiring one to hit 60% seniority.

This way one can move up and have a QOL throughout their time here rather than just when they hit the top 5% and can finally say "I'm finally senior today." Kind of the same as Timbo's argument that it'd be better to pay high early and decrease with time. Not saying inverse scheduling with seniority but it makes a point, why make this a ladder when it could be stairs? Jetway stairs... to an 88.

Well, we can disagree.

My current category is fat, has zero open time and as a reserve, I have flown less than 300 hours in the last 12 months. I've been in your category, and I've been in an even slower category, MSPM88B, so I think I can chime in with a little bit of perspective.

I don't want to see a system that one 4 or 5 day trip puts you in a different bucket. That would erase all the benefits of the seniority. As it stands, you need about two 4 days to get in the next bucket, which I think is fair. Just my opinion.

iceman49 01-31-2012 09:28 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1126267)
The same reason the captain america I flew with last week didn't want to get deiced out of DTW because "at 80 knots it'll just blow off."

I got to practice some good CRM on that one, yikes!

So how did the rest of the conversation go?

Molon Labe 01-31-2012 09:53 AM

Check Essential, where did you get that it is awesome? Possibly at totally demotivational.com or despair .com ?Any way I have a great spot to hang such a poster...

Check Essential 01-31-2012 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Molon Labe (Post 1126522)
Check Essential, where did you get that it is awesome? Possibly at totally demotivational.com or despair .com ?Any way I have a great spot to hang such a poster...

Don't know where it originated. I saw it on a friend's facebook page.

There's no copyright I'm aware of. Feel free to take it and use it however you want.

(right click and then "properties" gives you the link. or right click and "save" to your hard drive.)

forgot to bid 01-31-2012 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by MoonShot (Post 1126504)
Well, we can disagree.

My current category is fat, has zero open time and as a reserve, I have flown less than 300 hours in the last 12 months. I've been in your category, and I've been in an even slower category, MSPM88B, so I think I can chime in with a little bit of perspective.

I don't want to see a system that one 4 or 5 day trip puts you in a different bucket. That would erase all the benefits of the seniority. As it stands, you need about two 4 days to get in the next bucket, which I think is fair. Just my opinion.

We can agree to disagree that 80 is too big but I agree a single trip shouldn't bump you over unless it's a WB category. 2 4- day trips will get one there but 4 days make up less than 40% of the trips and gold to anyone with a 65 hour line. So if unable to fast track to bucket 2 one is left with a combination of trip lengths a that could take all month.

buzzpat 01-31-2012 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1126377)
I find it hard to believe seniority came before increased reserve guarantee and same credit for same flight on the reserve survey.

Well, it really hasn't .... yet. Reserve guarantee and trip credit is a money thing, we'll have to get those back at the table. Seniority in bidding on reserve was low hanging fruit.

Sink r8 01-31-2012 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1126500)
You'd be a good Captain to fly with. :D

I'm pretty sure he is...;)

But I'm sure he didn't mean getting one's objection on the tape is much consolation.

buzzpat 01-31-2012 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by nwa757 (Post 1126296)
Cool sounding song and sweet dance moves, just keep in mind what this song is telling our youth:

The song manages to hide a dark message beneath its cheery tune. "I tend to do that with a lot of songs," Mark Foster told MTV News."

Yeah! He found a six-shooter gun
in his dad's closet, with the box of fun things.
I don't even know what,
but he's coming for you. Yeah, He's coming for you!

All the other kids with the pumped up kicks,
You better run, better run, outrun my gun.
All the other kids with the pumped up kicks,
You better run, better run, faster than my bullet.


If your kids are listening to this song, talk to them about the real meaning. If you have cool sneakers, I have a gun?

[Serious parent soapbox stepdown]

Hey, don't be hating on Foster the People. Love that group. Besides, saw an interview with them and the song was written to oppose bullying and illustrate just how tragic and uncalled for events like Columbine are.


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