Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-08-2012 | 11:32 AM
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For all you P-47 fanatics:
I loved the before start flow explanation. Very cool.
I loved the before start flow explanation. Very cool.
02-08-2012 | 11:44 AM
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02-08-2012 | 12:06 PM
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No idea, but it makes sense given that RA said that consolidation is not over and that Delta would be a player.
Thinking out loud here and there is no info, just my random thoughts at the question posed.
Large Displacement on a 365 bid (Last one was 2011's 365 bid) Allows almost all of the training to be done after the summer season.
Pilots bummed at all of the cuts and further capacity reduction. Manages expectations down.
Extension or modification offered, and we take it given the fact that AMR is in CH11 and any gains are better than none. (Blah blah)
It passes.
New bid comes out with many reinstatements(never go to training) or an acquisition is announced after we have agreed to an agreement of some sort.
Could be totally off base, but a displacement bid right before the openers just seems typical to me. Now if they offer early outs for pilots (no rumors of one coming btw) that means that the latest LOA with a 12 month new hire training freeze makes economic sense for them to trim from the top and hire in to the bottom later this year.
Just random thoughts guys and gals, nothing official or rumored. I mean that.
On a side note, the push back that AMR is getting from the PBGC pushes out any sort of end game wrt to an asset purchase or an acquisition from anyone, not just DAL. Everyone will want to see how that plays out.
Thinking out loud here and there is no info, just my random thoughts at the question posed.
Large Displacement on a 365 bid (Last one was 2011's 365 bid) Allows almost all of the training to be done after the summer season.
Pilots bummed at all of the cuts and further capacity reduction. Manages expectations down.
Extension or modification offered, and we take it given the fact that AMR is in CH11 and any gains are better than none. (Blah blah)
It passes.
New bid comes out with many reinstatements(never go to training) or an acquisition is announced after we have agreed to an agreement of some sort.
Could be totally off base, but a displacement bid right before the openers just seems typical to me. Now if they offer early outs for pilots (no rumors of one coming btw) that means that the latest LOA with a 12 month new hire training freeze makes economic sense for them to trim from the top and hire in to the bottom later this year.
Just random thoughts guys and gals, nothing official or rumored. I mean that.
On a side note, the push back that AMR is getting from the PBGC pushes out any sort of end game wrt to an asset purchase or an acquisition from anyone, not just DAL. Everyone will want to see how that plays out.
Actually, I just heard one. I usually don't trade in speculation that is so unfounded it isn't even on APC yet, but I couldn't resist. Early out program to be announced in less than two weeks, 73 points to qualify, and rumored to have a medical sweetener to haste exits....
But then again....I did believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny until high school....
02-08-2012 | 12:13 PM
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I'm guessing the "Points" are; age plus longevity?
Which, if the 73 number is correct, makes it available to anyone age 50+ with 23+ years of service, or a combination thereof, to equal 73 or above.
Geeze, I've got 78 Points...but no Frozen DB plan, or I'd be on a boat in Sint Maaten, if they'd cover the medical premiums!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVSMxIgyg_o
With Miss BOOM!
Which, if the 73 number is correct, makes it available to anyone age 50+ with 23+ years of service, or a combination thereof, to equal 73 or above.
Geeze, I've got 78 Points...but no Frozen DB plan, or I'd be on a boat in Sint Maaten, if they'd cover the medical premiums!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVSMxIgyg_o
With Miss BOOM!
02-08-2012 | 12:21 PM
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Why don't you just start a list of things that will be the end of DALPA? Then you can just refer to your numerical reason as to why you are upset today?
Bacon's "Reason's" Why DALPA Will Be Off The Property
#1) They lie about a merger being in the works (Nevermind that they may have absolutely no idea that this is the case... but don't let anything like THAT get in the way of your vitriol.
#2) Free healthcare was not negotiated in the new contract
#3) C2K rates plus inflation was not achieved
C'mon dude... give us the list...
I think these were reasons too.
Bacon's "Reason's" Why DALPA Will Be Off The Property
#1) They lie about a merger being in the works (Nevermind that they may have absolutely no idea that this is the case... but don't let anything like THAT get in the way of your vitriol.
#2) Free healthcare was not negotiated in the new contract
#3) C2K rates plus inflation was not achieved
C'mon dude... give us the list...
I think these were reasons too.
I guess my goal of attaining significant improvements across the board, and being willing to fight for those improvements, is somehow at odds with your perverse view of a benevolent, God-like Delta, who, with DALPA at its right hand, will always take care of you.
Folks like you are why we'll never be able to negotiate the contract we want.
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02-08-2012 | 12:24 PM
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02-08-2012 | 12:26 PM
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LAX NRT back to the Whale!
That's good news traffic wise because we've been running capacity rather tight...
Cheers
George
That's good news traffic wise because we've been running capacity rather tight...
Cheers
George
02-08-2012 | 12:28 PM
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I'm not against getting an extension (that's what she said?) but we need to make some measurable inroads to scope recapture at all levels (RJ, AS, JV). AS needs some serious limits as well as guaranteed DL metal on routes once they meet certain frequency/density metrics. At least half the LA-SEA, one BOS-SEA and half the mainline SFO-SEA and LA should be DL equipment. ATL-SEA should be removed from the code share. If that is unacceptable to management then they need to merge. The 255 number of large RJ's needs to be reduced by several dozen even for a quick extension and the 76 seaters need to go away immediately even if they have to pull seats. And we need protections for JV partners present and especially future as the ones we don't have yet are the real threat.
But if we see a pay raise with little to nothing else dangled in front of us, we are clearly being set up for something.
02-08-2012 | 12:31 PM
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Front page of DeltaNet has a story about profit sharing checks.
Are we getting a paper check? Not direct deposit? Story makes it sound that way.
“Because about 96% of our normal check distribution each month is via direct deposit, this is definitely a one-of-a-kind event for us each year. But of course we’re excited under the circumstances, and we’re really looking forward to next week’s celebrations.”
Are we getting a paper check? Not direct deposit? Story makes it sound that way.
“Because about 96% of our normal check distribution each month is via direct deposit, this is definitely a one-of-a-kind event for us each year. But of course we’re excited under the circumstances, and we’re really looking forward to next week’s celebrations.”
02-08-2012 | 12:38 PM
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Front page of DeltaNet has a story about profit sharing checks.
Are we getting a paper check? Not direct deposit? Story makes it sound that way.
“Because about 96% of our normal check distribution each month is via direct deposit, this is definitely a one-of-a-kind event for us each year. But of course we’re excited under the circumstances, and we’re really looking forward to next week’s celebrations.”
Are we getting a paper check? Not direct deposit? Story makes it sound that way.
“Because about 96% of our normal check distribution each month is via direct deposit, this is definitely a one-of-a-kind event for us each year. But of course we’re excited under the circumstances, and we’re really looking forward to next week’s celebrations.”
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