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forgot to bid 02-12-2012 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1133838)
Yes it should go to pilot #1, you are still on long call and next for flying even though you have a SC the next day. They have called me at night and assigned a trip and taken me off SC. You can call ALPA on Mon and I'm sure they would tell you the same thing.

Ah ha. Thanks, that is what they've been doing lately but because it wasn't always that way I was kind of confused as to what it should be. Either way, don't really ever care if they pull a SC for a trip but it's just good to know for planning purposes. Like month I made plans because I had a 1430 SC, it was revoked for a 0900 show. All legal but it helps know I shouldn't make plans if I'm close to being called for a LC trip.


Originally Posted by Express pilot (Post 1133838)
But I wouldn't put it passed Scheduling to just do what they want. The last few months I have been 2 for 3 on items they have missed with giving out trips. I was told sorry new people.

I know, that's why I am all for taking people out of the equation. Just let me be one with the computer because at least it's predictable... and will know the rules.

slowplay 02-12-2012 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1133527)
As always, Slow's press releases are only part of the truth:

1) How many of those DAL aircraft on order are slated to replace airframes currently on the property?

2) DCI is 100 aircraft smaller....what was the change of gauge of the DCI makeup? How many of the smaller 50 seat RJs, which do not directly replace mainline flying, left the DCI property, in exchange for 70-76 seat airframes arriving, which DO replace mainline flying?

It's great if 200 50 seaters left the DCI property. Whats not so great is when they are replaced by 100 76 seat aircraft that parks 100 aircraft at the mainline.

Nu

The answers you seek are found in the 10-K that was released this past week.

1. The new aircraft orders are designed to be capacity neutral. Delta retains options on 737-900's, 777's and MD-90's for delivery in 2013 and thereafter.

2. DCI gauge has increased to an average of 58 seats per aircraft. According to Delta's 10-K, DCI capacity and traffic dropped 2% last year. Mainline traffic was flat on a 1% capacity increase. If you look at scheduled system departures from the OAG, DCI peaked in January 2010 at 60.4%. They are down to 57.4% of system departures in March, 2012. If you look at system ASM's (again from OAG) they were at 14.5% of system ASM's in January 2010, and will be at 13.8% of ASM's in March 2012. Your assertion that they are replacing mainline flying doesn't match with the math. DCI as a percentage of Delta flying got smaller.

slowplay 02-12-2012 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1133394)
Do you really want DALPA to be like a "big business", Slow?

I like efficientcy. I like transparency better.

As to your last point, that's what I've been trying to tell folks here. To get to the top, you need to start at the bottom.

Posted as a reminder...I've answered your questions.

You didn't answer my question...;)

Any example...doesn't have to be big business or the Federal .gov.

johnso29 02-12-2012 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1133671)
Sort of ... .
  • Legacy carriers and Southwest have shown remarkable capacity discipline. This has driven prices up. It is a temporary gain to be sure. Nature abhors a vacuum and carriers like Spirit will grow to fill it as quickly as they can. Our action (including AA and United) might even save Virgin America.
  • We don't own the RJ's. As capacity has shrunk it has forced Delta's partners into losses. The 50 seaters can not be re-deployed outside a network and remain profitable. They have to come up with a "plan B."
  • Plan B is probably going to be high performance turboprops, which are not currently constrained by our scope. Bombardier will gladly resupply the market. The Q-400 has great operating numbers, but allegedly passengers don't like it. It's other problem is it's 737-800 sized footprint which makes it a bit of an elephant at a ramp developed for 50 seat RJ's. (ALPA is aware and I expect turboprop scope to be a part of C2012)

We need a competitive small jet that we fly.

Bar,

I hear the MX reliability of the Q400 is not good. Have you looked at those numbers.? Just curious as I don't know if it is true.

DAL 88 Driver 02-12-2012 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1133849)
Bar,

I hear the MX reliability of the Q400 is not good. Have you looked at those numbers.? Just curious as I don't know if it is true.

Johnso,

Have you looked at the reliability of DCI in general? :eek:

Just because it's unreliable or low quality doesn't mean our management won't gravitate to it if they think it saves them a few bucks on the next quarterly report.

slowplay 02-12-2012 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1133849)
Bar,

I hear the MX reliability of the Q400 is not good. Have you looked at those numbers.? Just curious as I don't know if it is true.

It's not just the MX reliability. The Q400 has been available for sale since 2000. Out of a total production of 383 aircraft (including all the military models) I think there are less than 60 flying in the US, and Bombardier only plans to deliver 28 worldwide this year. Their production backlog is just 29 airplanes. Compared to CRJ sales during the same period the Q has not been popular with Bombardier's customers. PCL says the Q400 contract is the worst financial performer in their portfolio.

It's my opinion that we need additional scope language covering aircraft in this class with "nextgen" powerplants.

johnso29 02-12-2012 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1133864)
Johnso,

Have you looked at the reliability of DCI in general? :eek:

Just because it's unreliable or low quality doesn't mean our management won't gravitate to it if they think it saves them a few bucks on the next quarterly report.

I can't argue with you there! :D


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1133865)
It's not just the MX reliability. The Q400 has been available for sale since 2000. Out of a total production of 383 aircraft (including all the military models) I think there are less than 60 flying in the US, and Bombardier only plans to deliver 28 worldwide this year. Their production backlog is just 29 airplanes. Compared to CRJ sales during the same period the Q has not been popular with Bombardier's customers. PCL says the Q400 contract is the worst financial performer in their portfolio.

It's my opinion that we need additional scope language covering aircraft in this class with "nextgen" powerplants.

Thanks slow. That's good info. It appears that Pinnacle is in danger of nose diving fast. The Mesaba SAABs are parked and the Colgan SAABs are to soon follow. If Pinnacle can't get new terms to make their Q400 operation for United profitable, they may lose those too. Not looking rosy for them right now.

Ferd149 02-12-2012 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1133845)
The answers you seek are found in the 10-K that was released this past week.

1. The new aircraft orders are designed to be capacity neutral. Delta retains options on 737-900's, 777's and MD-90's for delivery in 2013 and thereafter.

2. DCI gauge has increased to an average of 58 seats per aircraft. According to Delta's 10-K, DCI capacity and traffic dropped 2% last year. Mainline traffic was flat on a 1% capacity increase. If you look at scheduled system departures from the OAG, DCI peaked in January 2010 at 60.4%. They are down to 57.4% of system departures in March, 2012. If you look at system ASM's (again from OAG) they were at 14.5% of system ASM's in January 2010, and will be at 13.8% of ASM's in March 2012. Your assertion that they are replacing mainline flying doesn't match with the math. DCI as a percentage of Delta flying got smaller.

Does Alaska do anything to these numbers?

TeddyKGB 02-12-2012 01:57 PM

Interest survey from the guys who aren't hiding the survey results. So far over 1,100 pilots had voted and over 80% say the raise should be in the 20% - 50% range. Vote up guys & gals if you haven't already voted.

slowplay 02-12-2012 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 1133873)
Does Alaska do anything to these numbers?

Not much. Delta carried 160 million passengers last year. About 800,000 flew on Alaska code share flights.


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