It is always a good idea to police ourselves, individually. When that fails, it is good to have DAL folks as moderators to make those calls, before the post is seen by more sensitive eyes.

Good reminder Orvil.

I'm late to the party on this one.

I recently heard from some instructors in the SLC FlightSafety that SkyWest is getting the same deal. I just dismissed it because I've heard some off-the-wall stuff there, but now that I've read it on L&G, it must be true!

But I'm with FTB. I'd rather just interview on my own so I can shortcut all the guys ahead of me. Of which there are many. Good thing this probably won't happen.

I won't be surprised if that is indeed the case here. Pilots will not counter sue due to the cost and it'd be cheaper to give up the names.

Correct, but as with other instances, it takes a court order. APC has seen that before. On APC you are not asked for your name when you register, only a email address that is from a paid subscriber. There has been a long debate about this since those addresses can and have been created and deleted at will.

Of course, the dal pilots do a really good job of policing themselves on here.

I was kidding. I was just looking for a reason to reference your honey badger video narrated by Randall. Maybe you need to remind everyone again. :D

Carl

Scambo;
If true it would allow more 76 seat jets, possibly off property but flown by DAL pilots. It makes places like SKW effectively a wet lessor of airplanes. The DCI pilot groups need to agree to a staple, which if they are smart they will do immeadeatly since the alternatives are not good at all. I talked about this being an effective way to recapture scope,but maneuver out of these cpa's over a year ago. It helps us the Dal pilots, helps the company and offers a way for the DCI operators to morph out of their old models. i do not know if SKW would get the same deal because that would lessen the benefit of being Alpa,but who knows.

Interesting rumor. Source?

Not necessarily. A couple of flow pilots got to pursue other opportunities during the last cycle.

OK. I don't see much value in a flow from our viewpoint either. We're trying to make sure that Delta pilots perform Delta flying. If we ever get to a point where we have to move backwards, we don't want to move backwards to another company, just to smaller planes.

Having a flow-up/flow-down is a way to get stuck with the infamous "first page" of evry regional's seniority list, with marginal benefits for junior regional guys that haven't yet flowed up, and marginal back-stops for the Delta pilots.

A comprehensive deal is what I think both sides would need.

I've always imagined that, if we were able to recapture large RJ's, it would involve taking pilots. I don't see us being able to negotiate the added cost of hiring brand-new new crews for said planes, when they're already flown by (presumably) qualified pilots. I always assumed we'd have to bite the bullet on getting the few nightmare freaks that sued us back in the day, and the nightmare freaks that are just plain stuck there, in order to strike a deal that works long-term.

Maybe there can be some sort of negotiated review, where up to X % of pilots can be rejected by the company? That would certainly have the potential to see any deal crumble, from the regional side.

Again, I don't have any knowledge about anything other than the rumors on here, but at the risk of "thinking" again, it seems to me a lot of elements would finally be in place for some sort of grand bargain.

OK, thanks. I have no idea what the number of problem children is, at any rate. I came from the regionals, and It was always obvious that the vast majority of us in the incubator would grow up to be fine pilots, someday.

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