That's fine, but many others would be very happy to be captain of a smaller jet. To decline bringing jets back to Delta simply becuase they're smaller and pay less is IMO.....shortsighted. It's also what started this entire RJ nightmare.

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Here's a cockpit to hum about
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One was an altercation between a flow FO and a DAL jumpseater who was badmouthing the FO's previous airline. The FO should have shut up but didn't, as all of us who know him would expect. He's actually a really good guy and a good pilot as well, but was well known for speaking his mind. Sometimes ya gotta know when to just shut up...

The other failed out of the DC9 due to training issues, and we had a few others who struggled on the DC9 but ultimately made it through.

Actually, Johnso, IMHO, bringing smaller jets to the company and getting giddy is shortsighted. Do we want to become a regional carrier or do we want to play on the big playground? I understand where you guys are coming from. You are a product of the regionals. Yes, let us absolutely recapture our scope. But, no, let us not get comfortable with settling for that. Again, growing small is not growing big. We should shoot for growing big.

It's fine that you don't want to fly a CRJ and Ejet, that's fine. There are lots of guys who don't want to fly widebodys, or DC9s, or those tail-shedding Airbii. More power to em, it's all about choice. And that's largely what this about. When the jet is off your list, you don't have a choice. When it's on your list, you do. Even if you don't want to fly them, you'll benefit when guys ahead of you do decide they'd like to try the left seat of an Ejet and you move up in your category quicker. Everyone wins.

Buzz, smaller airplanes feed bigger airplanes. I want none of our flying outsourced. :) If that means flying a smaller plane, then so be it. I never said I wanted to settle with bringing small jets back to DAL. But if the line isn't drawn somewhere, then soon we won't be ordering WB's at all becuase that flying will be heavily outsourced too. Heck, some of it already is. I wouldn't expect to see WB's ordered until we see the 787-900 or equivalent WRT weight and range. RA is not interested in old technology.

Jungle, are you at DAL or are you at DCI?

I do believe that had both pilots who had issues with the dc-9 gone through any other program they would still be on property. Both guys who were fired/asked to leave are very nice guys. I believe that spending the last 10+ years on glass especially the 175 made the transition very difficult for some. Once you lose your scan It's a difficult thing to regain. To quote FTB, the 9 don't give a damn about your last aircraft.

Now as for the flow rumors. I can say with confidence that Delta has been in touch with Compass and told them they expect to hire later this year the number is between 40 and 80 pilots. They also told them they do not want to deal with the hold back issues. These pilots would be in addition to off the street new hires. So my math tells me that it would be for at least 2 months and up to 4 months worth of classes, based off of 20/month flow language. Depending on how many Delta puts in a class and how many classes it runs per month the number could be upwards of 400... Just my guess.