Originally Posted by formerdal (Post 1157658)

Right, if Carl said it it must be true....:rolleyes:

Finished recurrent 1 month ago, there was a suit in the break room who said the New panel had been approved by the board and funded. All aircraft to be completed in 18-24 months....believe it when we see it!

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1157806)

Actually, Johnso, IMHO, bringing smaller jets to the company and getting giddy is shortsighted. Do we want to become a regional carrier or do we want to play on the big playground? I understand where you guys are coming from. You are a product of the regionals. Yes, let us absolutely recapture our scope. But, no, let us not get comfortable with settling for that. Again, growing small is not growing big. We should shoot for growing big.

Originally Posted by Ball Breaker (Post 1157836)

You know RA well do you? Better cnx those MD90s coming in. No chance for 717s. I guess those acquired DC9s at NWA never happened either. How about the 742 freighters. He's always looked for value. Look no further than then operating economics of the 739.

RA would buy 777s in a heart beat, if and only if, it'd be more advantageous for DAL pilots to fly them. Right now, it appears DAL is more interested in JVs/Code Shares.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1157827)

No Sink, I'm not kidding. And, once again, I get it. What I am saying is that bringing smaller jets to the company is fine. It certainly behooves the junior guys. I'm not opposed to it, I actually applaud it. HOWEVER, if anybody thinks that it means we are thriving is sorely mistaken. We are a huge international airline. We pride ourselves on being the best pilots in the industry. And, in my opinion, we are. The company can't grow and WE can't grow if we don't aspire to build our WB fleet. I saw an Aeroflot 777 take off from LA last night on its way to Moscow. Do you know how many 777s we have? Frikkin Aeroflot? Which we now code share by the way. We are quickly becoming a ticket brokering regional carrier. Not what I have in mind.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1157610)

Carl said they canceled it, I have not heard anything with regard to that. ( I thought Carl was joking, but what do I know)

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1157827)

No Sink, I'm not kidding. And, once again, I get it. What I am saying is that bringing smaller jets to the company is fine. It certainly behooves the junior guys. I'm not opposed to it, I actually applaud it. HOWEVER, if anybody thinks that it means we are thriving is sorely mistaken. We are a huge international airline. We pride ourselves on being the best pilots in the industry. And, in my opinion, we are. The company can't grow and WE can't grow if we don't aspire to build our WB fleet. I saw an Aeroflot 777 take off from LA last night on its way to Moscow. Do you know how many 777s we have? Frikkin Aeroflot? Which we now code share by the way. We are quickly becoming a ticket brokering regional carrier. Not what I have in mind.

Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1157806)

Actually, Johnso, IMHO, bringing smaller jets to the company and getting giddy is shortsighted. Do we want to become a regional carrier or do we want to play on the big playground? I understand where you guys are coming from. You are a product of the regionals. Yes, let us absolutely recapture our scope. But, no, let us not get comfortable with settling for that. Again, growing small is not growing big. We should shoot for growing big.

Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1157856)

We are vulnerable from both ends of section 1.

Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1157846)

It's not either or. Grow big - absolutely - grow small as well. It is not a zero sum proposition as some still would have you believe, and we have seen how well trading small for big works.

The only furlough protection that means anything is flowing to smaller jets on your own property.