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Roadkill

Anyone have any predictions on how the upcoming 777/747 reductions will pan out, with some specific nums? Sure it's throwing a dart, but still fun. Where will the 777/747 reductions happen, where will those guys bid to, how far down the hill will the ****e flow? What will keeping the DC9s do if we have 90s coming in at the same time?

And for the lotto win, how many slots will I move down in category? Whoever guesses closest gets free beers whenever they run across me. No really.

Check Essential

Interesting Friday Night at the fights.

A couple opinions from an observer:
1) alfaromeo is denying that the sky is blue when he tries to minimize the role that ALPA and our contractual scope language plays in Delta's fleet decisions and their other joint venture and code-share arrangements. DALPA and management have been "constructively engaged" in outsourcing for a long time now. Moak truly believe(s)(d) that RJs saved Delta. Same goes for international alliances and revenue sharing in its various forms.
ALPA has clearly been a co-conspirator in outsourcing.
I hope they've realized the error and will reverse that policy going forward.

2) Bucking Bar often speaks as if ALPA can unilaterally mix and match pilot groups and seniority lists with relative ease and management and the government will just go along with whatever the union wants to do in that regard. He makes it sound like we could all be on one list and "unity" could be instantly achieved if only the people in charge of ALPA would stop standing in the way.
The fact is that the NMB and only the NMB decides who is in which bargaining units and if management does not merge the companies involved and cooperate with combining seniority lists then it is nearly impossible for ALPA to merge the pilot groups. If ALPA hadn't killed the ASA/Comair attempt to join DALPA then management surely would have. And they'd have done it easily. The whole PID controversy and other ALPA proceedings were just an academic exercise.

And I have to agree with DALPA's decision on Compass. Theoretically, Bar is obviously correct. Unity would be great. But absent a merger, it would be completely unworkable for the same MEC to represent two different pilot groups with competing interests and management had no intention of ever merging Compass into mainline.
ALPA has significantly less power than Bucking Bar implies when it comes to achieving this elusive "unity" among the various pilot groups. Management likes their ability to whipsaw and stopping it is going to be incredibly difficult.

georgetg

Why the DC-9 is staying:

From Boeing's 10-K filing
That represent a nearly 10% reduction in annual aircraft lease payments for the combined Souhtwest/Airtran fleet.
With the reduced lease rates the 717 got another stay of execution at WN...

Cheers
George

scambo1

I'll take a shot with a 777 DTW dart. There are a number of pilots who live in ATL who commute to DTW to fly. A number of these pilots have been interested in bidding back to ATL, but have not been able to.

My prediction: DTW 777 FOs will bid to ATL 777 and A 330. Additionally, VDs from DTW 777B went senior on the last bid - further demonstrating the pent up desire to bid out. IOW, my guess is that none of them will bid the 88, half of the FOs can hold the 73n, 320, 767, 7er, 330 and 777 left seat.

FTB, here's your chance to be an 88A.

alfaromeo

So once again, more obfuscation. The Delta MEC did not vote to "divest" anyone. They voted to have Compass pilots represent Compass pilots and not pilots from another airline.

The Delta MEC did not vote to oppose a merger with Comair or ASA. The ALPA Executive Board was asked to initiate a Merger Policy Implementation Date when THERE WAS NO MERGER. There is a reason why there is no PID between Delta and United or Pinnacle or FEDEX or any other airline. That is because there is no merger. Now the Comair and ASA MEC's somehow invented a merger out of thin air and then asked the rest of the world to sign on to this fantasy. It should not have been a surprise to anyone that you don't start merging seniority lists when companies have not been merged. So the Delta MEC did not take one step to stop any merger with Comair and ASA. They simply did not support starting up merger policy with no merger. I don't run the fire checklist unless I am actually on fire.

I know you didn't get your way with the Compass vote, but it simply was an unworkable concept. I don't understand how this was ever set up and the only possible solution was to have Compass pilots represent Compass pilots. The idea that a bunch of pilots would negotiate a contract for another group of pilots is not logical. Why shouldn't Compass pilots represent themselves? Again, you are confused that pilots can initiate mergers when in fact the company Board of Directors makes that choice.

Swelbar is an anti union hack that thinks we are all overpaid bus drivers. What exactly do I need to learn from him?

If you want to discuss the negotiator notes then produce the original documents. What I don't agree with is you making veiled references to skullduggery with no specifics nor any way to tell if you are just making things up. It is tabloid smear tactics. How can anyone respond when you just throw out stuff like that? The RJDC lost that suit in every possible way, so I can't see how there are a lot of smoking guns in those documents.

I did not say you were attacking me. You called people liars and you made a bunch of statements about the union that are patently false. You try to make some separation between your statements and the people they libel but you are just trying to wriggle out of taking responsibility for your attacks.

You have been predicting doom and gloom for yourself ever since the merger was announced. Seriously, you have predicted your imminent furlough multiple times. Periodically, you get yourself so worked up that you start lashing out. I am sorry you feel angst, but it is no excuse to libel people either as individuals or a group. Don't make stuff up and I won't show how you are making stuff up.

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Wow, good find George. I guess that ends that.

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Anybody get their flightline tax thing yet?

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I think it's best to just win the lottery. Mega millions is big enough tonight, so is Powerball.