Silence is speaking up.

IMO, the slot swap letter writing campaign result was the end of constructive engagement. Even DALPA admitted they were duped.

Fool me twice and all that.

Excellent post -- likely the company will have to offer pilots the medical option as part of 'me too'. Does likely show a lack of overstaffing and concern about future staffing.

Let me show you some pictures to provide some "color":

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/cuts.jpg

Delta is half of the JV and makes cuts of 11%
Total JV cuts add up to 8%

50% of 5% = 2.5%
50% of 11% = 5.5%

Total cuts = 2.5% +5.5% = 8%
That means the AFKLM/AZ capacity reduction is less than half the size of the hit Delta took.

here's what makes it worse:
One A380 = 2.5 7ERs

That's great when we are adding flights, terrible when we are cutting...
Because we cut 5 flights for every two flights they cut.

Now lets add it all up:

To get the same percentage cut we need to cut 2.5 times the flights of AFKLM/AZ. On top of that, Delta is making twice the capacity cuts compared to AFKLM/AZ.

That's the state of our production balance and why we are displacing off of WB international jets. BTW the seat mods account for 2 aircraft a month, not a significant factor at all in terms of total impact on reductions. And side we can't control AFKLM/AZ there is nothing we can do!

Unsat!

Cheers
George

Now that we have cut capacity, our non-fuel CASM has gone up.
(Obviously if there are fewer ASMS and the same fixed cost then CASM goes up)

Here is what we are being asked to do:
We should take a hit in pay and seniority progression so stockholders can get a 10% return.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/Casm.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25953519/return.jpg

Cheers
George



http://www.pitch.com/binary/597a/themoreyouknow.jpg

So, what's everyone going to do about it?

I see a lot of ruffled feathers, and lots of jawboning.

What I don't see are any special LEC meetings with recalls on the agenda. All I see is business as usual.

Yawn. Just what they want. If you are arguing amongst yourselves here, you aren't picking up the phone to your rep or organizing a group to really do anything about it.

You guys remind me of the cats you all seem to hate so much. Try to look all bad-ass by puffing up and yowling, but easily distracted by a shiny bauble and then begging for a pet.

Weak sauce.

Nu

I will assume that was a joke..

Look at george's post, and show me the good news in that.. please.

Yeah, let's recall everybody the month we go into negotiations with the company. Makes perfect sense. :rolleyes:

Vacation Help!!!
Last minute get away for the Missus and I, was thinking warm and all inclusive! Need some ideas from the gallery please, non stop out of "mecca" preferred....
Thanks

LOL, that's rich. you ought to talk to my reps or SM and RD, and see if they agree with you ;-)

Information is key to forming opinions based on facts. If there is a lack of information coming from official channels, or disinformation coming from company officials, then the antidote is to provide a counterpoint based in facts. If that doesn't sit well with you, then that's your own problem...

Lack of access to information has always been the Achilles heel of the established power brokers across the centuries. This negotiating environment will be very different because of that, and that's a positive for us. Lots of valuable insight on this forum and plenty of fluff, the reader decides what is important, what isn't. Now quit whining about others and provide your own contributions!

Cheers
George