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Old 02-29-2012 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
Maybe some of the LCA can challenge RA at the next meeting regarding his logic of using industry standard pay for his pilots and industry leading pay for his executive team. His response to the question could be our next bag sticker!

^^^ This!! ^^^ But to do that they would have to remove the cup of Kool-Aid from their mouth, put it down, and raise their hand. That's asking too much maybe
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:27 AM
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AE this Friday or Next? They said early March...
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
You guys are just all so negative!
Let's celebrate the new jet delivered today!

Is this "Winning New York?" ;-)


Brand new A330-300 delivered today, it's practically ours...

Cheers
George
And they'll retire a MD11 now too. They're orders are replacements.
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
ACL, I agree, and the only good thing to come out of our Bankruptcy was, with the loss of our DB plan, we are no longer handcuffed to Delta for the rest or our careers. If I get a better offer somewhere else, I'm gone.

For a guy like you, it is about a wash. For most junior to you, the decision becomes more cloudy. For anyone in my seniority bracket, many things need to happen for DAL to offer the career advancement that will, 1) attract pilots, and 2) keep pilots for the long haul.

I would not mind the Expat life, and nor would my wife. All of the talk as of late got me doing research on all of the gigs out there, and frankly I was floored at the money, and benefits offered. We enjoy the life we have, but fighting your way to make 100-130K a year for the next ten years, having 12 or so days off, is not the way to do it. Something will have to give wrt to our PWA. (You can get 12 or more days off a month with better pay and benefits a lot of other places)

I got lucky last year with my earnings. Because of the cutbacks, I will take a 50K paycut this year. That is no fun at all. (Never flew a GS and only flew to ALV+15) You could say it beats the street, and it does. I have had many pilots contact me asking how long of leave I thought they could get because they found a gig that can make 50-100% more than they are here. That is the sad commentary of the day.

The industry is upside down. International contracts should not pay so much better that pilots are seriously considering leaving a legacy job for them, but they are.
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by MoonShot
AE this Friday or Next? They said early March...

Hoping they delay it another month or two!

Probably will be the first one in a long time that is posted as planned.
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dtwairbus320
And let me just add that any increase to our current pay should be referred to as a RESTORATION and not a raise. We all need to use the correct vernacular to make our point clear.
Call your rep. Hahahaha

Two things you can count on from the new contract no matter what the outcome...

1) ALPA will declare it a victory.

2) It will be called a raise.
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Nothing. It is just the right thing to do. That point is often forgotten in present day business. Linear gains for the employees helps sell your product especially when implemented across all industries.

We are quickly approaching a point where the middle class will not have enough expendable income and their credit will dry up. At that point many businesses will fail because the machine that buys their products is no longer present.

You must feed the had that feeds the business machine in this country, and that point is often forgotten.
That could be said for a lot of things, but there's not much support for this ethos based on what I've seen lately. So forgive me if I don't put too much stock in this mindset.
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
That could be said for a lot of things, but there's not much support for this ethos based on what I've seen lately. So forgive me if I don't put too much stock in this mindset.
Trust me I agree. We are as a Nation bottom line driven to a fault. Business needs to succeed, but not on the backs of labor. This to is upside down and is part of the reason we are where we are as a nation. Ethics cannot be legislated, no matter how we try, and to keep with in the TOS I will say no more.

Just realize the most successful companies in this country really treat their employees well. Their pay is better, benefits are better etc. They found, or more accurately kept or usd the recipe for success which propelled this nation after WWII.
Old 02-29-2012 | 08:41 AM
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I already did. I flew with him and told him to his face. He smiled and nodded his head.

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Old 02-29-2012 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
Call your rep. Hahahaha

Two things you can count on from the new contract no matter what the outcome...

1) ALPA will declare it a victory.

2) It will be called a raise.
I already have. I flew with him.
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