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groundstop 03-27-2012 09:36 AM

They can increase the 76 seaters if they get the 717's, isn't that correct?

johnso29 03-27-2012 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Ralphie (Post 1158662)
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)


Further scope erosion equals NO on my ballot.

johnso29 03-27-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by groundstop (Post 1158676)
They can increase the 76 seaters if they get the 717's, isn't that correct?

Yes, but only if they hit a mainline fleet count of 767(I think) AND they must remove 70 seaters in order to do so.(Which may be difficult to do since many CRJ700's and EMB170's are under contract) The total number of large RJs(51-76 seats) may NOT exceed 255 REGARDLESS of fleet count.

shiznit 03-27-2012 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1158679)
Yes, but only if they hit a mainline fleet count of 767(I think) AND they must remove 70 seaters in order to do so. The total number of large RJs(51-76 seats) may NOT exceed 255 REGARDLESS of fleet count.

Exactly, and the fleet count is about 30-something jets shy of the 767 anyway, so it would be years before a change could increase it.

Plus the company already has agreements in place at other airlines to fly those 70 seat birds so not so easy to dump them, just to have to buy a new jet that has 6 more seats.... Not a very good business decision IMHO.

Wasatch Phantom 03-27-2012 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Ralphie (Post 1158662)
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)

No, just as Johnso said...

forgot to bid 03-27-2012 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Flamer (Post 1158672)
Just say nope to bad scope.

Good line.

I say, say yes to Delta!!!


As in yes to Delta airplanes, pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, employees and management team for Delta passengers. No more bait and switch when it comes to service providers.

flyallnite 03-27-2012 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by Ralphie (Post 1158662)
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)


If you heard this from the CPO, I'd only consider it to be an educated guess. They get absolutely zero information regarding pending orders and negotiating positions.

Wondering why more 777's? Great airplane and I'd love to see them, but what's the need and why not 330's? Is this the beginning of the NRT overfly 'strategy'?

TeddyKGB 03-27-2012 09:57 AM

More 70/76 seaters at DCI = NO vote for me.

Tomcat 03-27-2012 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Ralphie (Post 1158662)
Wow, this thread is getting really boring.
Latest from CPO in the northeast...

777 order in the low teens
717s, # to be determined
20% pay raise, quick contract with few rules changes (hence the willingness to work over the last 2 years for LOAs)
Increased number of 76 seaters
60-65 medical benefits to encourage retirements
nothing stated regarding hiring

discuss...(already a huge no vote from me on scope alone)

Rumor or Balloon?

JFTR-No (unless additional 76 seat aircraft crewed by mainline)

BlueMoon 03-27-2012 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by flyallnite (Post 1158688)
Wondering why more 777's? Great airplane and I'd love to see them, but what's the need and why not 330's? Is this the beginning of the NRT overfly 'strategy'?

I would guess that would be part of Deltas strategy as the NRT hub may be threatened if HND becomes open to all comers.


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