Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-30-2012, 05:06 AM
Happy to be here
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Originally Posted by Wingnutdal
Can anyone think of anything more stressful than your wife non-revving on her own?
In laws really need to be grouped in with step parents.
03-30-2012, 05:14 AM
Gets Weekends Off
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Are you trying to tell me you want me to bid the 737 out of LAX? 
Carl
Carl
03-30-2012, 05:21 AM
Sho me da money!
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Why the hell not Carl?! I'd love to see you out here. Besides, it seems like everybody else is....
nighters and 10 hr OGG 4 days (7 commutes and 66 hours of pay with those lil gems) Cant wait for awesome LAX all nighters to CMH TPA. Soooo glad I can depend on Alaska for a ride to work...... But hey I at least have a job right?
Things are looking up! Bring the Beer Carl at least we can have some fun!!!
03-30-2012, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
Your mother-in-law!
03-30-2012, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
Yep! Back to 737 in LAX.....Cant wait for awesome LAX all nighters to CMH TPA.
You're are going to LOVE the 10.3 hour three days!
At least they're commutable on the front end.
03-30-2012, 05:48 AM
Sho me da money!
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
....and RDU, and MCO, and DTW, and MIA, and CVG, and PHL, ....
You're are going to LOVE the 10.3 hour three days!
At least they're commutable on the front end.
You're are going to LOVE the 10.3 hour three days!
At least they're commutable on the front end.
03-30-2012, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I wouldn't call my friend that won a Field's Medal in Ubermath to mentor him just yet. Its not exactly hard to find CEO's that have doubled a company's share price from 2008-2012. Pretty much any of them that have a pulse have those bragging rights.
03-30-2012, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
There is no talk of a extension just for the record. We are in what can best be described as accelerated section 6. I don't know specifics and I doubt any will be released. I suspect each side has agreed to a hold harmless type agreement. If there is no agreement in the near term then everything on the table will be pulled and we start over with a traditional section 6. I am sure the company is asking for a 5 or 6 year contract and we are asking for a 3 year contract.
Everyone should review the history of contract negotiations over the last 10 years with pilot groups. You may need that knowledge to make a choice soon. I will still be surprised if they reach a accelerated agreement because the gulf between both sides I suspect is grand canyon sized. The union knows that they have the support of the pilot group in search of massive improvements. The company knows they can exploit the process to keep us working under the current agreement for at least 4 years and probably longer based on history.
Everyone should review the history of contract negotiations over the last 10 years with pilot groups. You may need that knowledge to make a choice soon. I will still be surprised if they reach a accelerated agreement because the gulf between both sides I suspect is grand canyon sized. The union knows that they have the support of the pilot group in search of massive improvements. The company knows they can exploit the process to keep us working under the current agreement for at least 4 years and probably longer based on history.
But if the wanted to drag it out then why not start now? Since their in section 6 I bet there is something they want, like labor peace so that they can...
Oh did I post that pic? I meant:
What I'm saying is I bet there is something they want, if they don't get it, then they can drag their feet. In the meantime, contract-itis is something we need to watch for and we need to leverage their desire to fast track this.
As to what I mentioned about the contract and putting it on paper. I get the idea that maybe in two contracts we get back to C2K+ instead of one. I get that being someones motivation and we all know two contracts may happen before the first ever hits the midway point.
But to just say we'll take this deal and then hope to make more gains the next time around is not anywhere near as good as saying we'll take this deal and in this deal we have the mechanisms and systems in place to assure we're back at the table in an expedited manner looking for more gains.
03-30-2012, 06:08 AM
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ahhhh... well, WAR CAM EAGLE!
ahhhh... well, WAR CAM EAGLE!
03-30-2012, 06:09 AM
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Interesting statistic leaked from American's lessor, AeroCap, on their 737 order. Apparently they got them for a 50% discount, $35.5 million each.
This explains why Bombardier's getting their head handed to them with their "our airplane is better, but we are not negotiating price" tactic. Boeing and Airbus have amortized all their R&D on narrow body jets years ago. That leaves Bombardier's future jet with a 2 to 3 Billion deficit right off the bat.
This explains why Bombardier's getting their head handed to them with their "our airplane is better, but we are not negotiating price" tactic. Boeing and Airbus have amortized all their R&D on narrow body jets years ago. That leaves Bombardier's future jet with a 2 to 3 Billion deficit right off the bat.
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