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Old 04-05-2012 | 03:21 AM
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This article definitely makes you think about the whole global picture and what might be going on in our managements mind:
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Old 04-05-2012 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
And I've been at a crappy regional for 8 years. Been applying to Delta since early 2008. My fear is that when you guys finally do start to hire, I'll be deemed "untrainable" due to being "too set in my ways". 4500 TPIC and counting with no end in sight. I'd rather be a reserve gear yanker at DL making more money, with a better retirement package.
I was at ASA for eight years. I had 6K total time, 4K PIC. You will not be deemed untrainable. Having a great attitude is what counts at Delta Air Lines.
Old 04-05-2012 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
The post what they know. Remember the dc9 being shuddered in two updates ago?
I realize things can change in this industry on a dime. I totally get that. Heck the 717 rumor alone, if it comes true, could potentially end up rocking their world from a planning perspective even if its "growth neutral". 737 delivery schedules, more DC-9 decisions and many other variables make what they do very fluid and hard to nail down in a monthly update.

But it is simply not reasonable or credible for them to even suggest that, here and now, based on our current trajectory, that retirements aren't really a concern for 5 more years and we won't need to hire until 2015. That is just laughable, unless their current trajectory is continued significant "capacity dicipline". That may end up happening,especially with another scope sale, but the point is they do not know that now therefore to put something like that out when they did is clearly propaganda to manage expectations.

What I would guess will be next if there is a TA in the fairly near future containing scope sales will be another update or actual AE with positive movement and hiring predicated on the TA passing of course, with the direct threat that if we vote no, all this prosperity will go away and we'll go back into the dungeon until 2015.

Just not buying it and this update looks suspisciously engineered on the eve of a "they want a deal ASAP" TA with strong rumors of "creative" scope sales.
Old 04-05-2012 | 06:53 AM
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I saw a DELTA Ford F350 with a long fifth wheel flatbed trailer delivering a bunch of scrap metal to a metal recycling plant this morning near my home.

My first thought was "DELTA bought F350s? Why?" My second thought was, "Ummm, what is the scrap metal from?"
Old 04-05-2012 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sinca3
This article definitely makes you think about the whole global picture and what might be going on in our managements mind:
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That was an interesting piece and illustrates just how much may be in play world-wide, let alone in the US.

Clearly consolidation is on many CEOs minds and I'm glad RA is at Delta. I think there is a window that's open now of unusual opportunity to acquire another carrier(s) and position Delta for the future.

It also lends credence to the notion that RA wants to get a pilot deal done fast so that wouldn't be an impediment to securing financing from Wall Street.

I don't mean to be too negative, but what does concern me is if DALPA buys in to the necessity for a fast deal, will they leave something on the table, and perhaps more importantly, as contractual language is nailed down they will agree to less than ironclad language. That's happened before and we as pilots pay the price for the mistakes of ALPA's "best and brightest" legal team.
Old 04-05-2012 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
That was an interesting piece and illustrates just how much may be in play world-wide, let alone in the US.

Clearly consolidation is on many CEOs minds and I'm glad RA is at Delta. I think there is a window that's open now of unusual opportunity to acquire another carrier(s) and position Delta for the future.

It also lends credence to the notion that RA wants to get a pilot deal done fast so that wouldn't be an impediment to securing financing from Wall Street.

I don't mean to be too negative, but what does concern me is if DALPA buys in to the necessity for a fast deal, will they leave something on the table, and perhaps more importantly, as contractual language is nailed down they will agree to less than ironclad language. That's happened before and we as pilots pay the price for the mistakes of ALPA's "best and brightest" legal team.
Production balances, whatever they are, will be ironclad I'm sure.
Old 04-05-2012 | 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
I saw a DELTA Ford F350 with a long fifth wheel flatbed trailer delivering a bunch of scrap metal to a metal recycling plant this morning near my home.

My first thought was "DELTA bought F350s? Why?" My second thought was, "Ummm, what is the scrap metal from?"
That's pretty cool that DAL is recycling. Probably not gonna pay off any significant debt with the proceeds, but I think it is a nice responsible thing to do. So where do you live? I don't know if they are doing it in MCO though.
Old 04-05-2012 | 07:40 AM
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This article posted from the 717 thread is very interesting and ominous.


Pinnacle Airlines will be relying primarily on 50-seat regional jets to carry it out of bankruptcy and until at least July 2022, when its newly revised contract to operate them for Delta Air Lines expires, even though the 50-seater market is shrinking and has a long-term future that is suspect at best.

That might not be the best foundation on which to build a future, but it may be the best option for the nearer-term survival of Pinnacle, the parent company for regional carriers Pinnacle Airlines, Colgan Air and Mesaba Airlines, or buy it time to transition to bigger aircraft. Memphis, Tenn.-based Pinnacle says in its bankruptcy court filings that its CRJ-200 contract with Delta is one of only two capacity purchase agreements at the regional carrier that are “potentially viable.”

The other is a contract to fly 41 CRJ-900s for Delta—all of which are under Delta lease—that also lasts until July 2022. For Delta, those aircraft are used in a two-class configuration with 76 seats, but can carry 90 passengers in an all-coach configuration.

As part of the restructuring, Pinnacle and Delta reached an agreement on early termination of a separate contract to operate 16 Pinnacle-owned CRJ-900 aircraft for Delta, which will wind down that flying over a five-month period that begins in January 2013.

Pinnacle is not yet saying what it plans to do with those 16 aircraft as they come off the Delta contract, so it is not clear whether they will remain in its fleet. The regional airline, however, definitely is getting rid of all of its Bombardier Q400 and Saab aircraft.

That means, by mid-2013, it might only be flying those 140 50-seat CRJ-200 aircraft and anywhere from 41 to 57 of the CRJ-900s.

The number of CRJ-200s is likely to dwindle between now and 2022: Under the newly revised Delta-Pinnacle capacity purchase agreement on the CRJ-200s, Delta can remove CRJ-200 aircraft from Pinnacle’s fleet, effective on the expiration date of Delta’s financing arrangement for each aircraft.
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Pinnacle will not disclose the timing or number. Delta also can reduce the number, on a one-to-one basis, if it reaches agreements with Pinnacle for flying more regional jets with 70 or more seats. ***********

A profitable future for the 50-seaters at Pinnacle depends on what rate Delta pays for them and how much Pinnacle can lower its costs, says Ray Neidl, a Maxim Group analyst.

“There still will be a need for 50-seaters, just not as many as are out there [now],” Neidl says. The 50-seater is not a growth market, he adds, “but at this point in time they [Pinnacle] are just trying to survive. Their fate is in the hands of Delta and, I guess, their employees.”

The newly revised contracts with Delta for the operation of the CRJ-200s and 41 CRJ-900s modifies the rates paid by Delta and eliminates the 2013 rate reset and pilot rate reset, which would have increased the amount of Delta’s payments.

Those pilot rate resets were going to be based on pilot pay raises that Pinnacle is seeking to eliminate under its bankruptcy restructuring. That makes the outcome of Pinnacle’s negotiations with its employee labor unions even more important—or, absent a voluntary deal, a Pinnacle request for the court to allow a rejection of the existing agreements and imposition of new terms.

Tom Wychor, chairman of the Pinnacle Master Executive Council (MEC) for the Air Line Pilots Association, said April 2 that union members “are always willing to sit down with management to find solutions to actual problems,” but he adds that “these solutions need to maintain contract standards that make this a career worth having.”

Pinnacle is planning to meet with members of the MEC next week.

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The picture is getting clearer and clearer isnt it........................
Old 04-05-2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Wasatch Phantom
That was an interesting piece and illustrates just how much may be in play world-wide, let alone in the US.

Clearly consolidation is on many CEOs minds and I'm glad RA is at Delta. I think there is a window that's open now of unusual opportunity to acquire another carrier(s) and position Delta for the future.

It also lends credence to the notion that RA wants to get a pilot deal done fast so that wouldn't be an impediment to securing financing from Wall Street.

I don't mean to be too negative, but what does concern me is if DALPA buys in to the necessity for a fast deal, will they leave something on the table, and perhaps more importantly, as contractual language is nailed down they will agree to less than ironclad language. That's happened before and we as pilots pay the price for the mistakes of ALPA's "best and brightest" legal team.
"Poor planning on your part does not equate to an emergency on my part." If a deal is "needed quickly" the terms better be much better than if it were drawn out in the normal course of negotiations.
Old 04-05-2012 | 07:55 AM
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Does every thread about Delta now have to include every article about Pinnacle? I know we are tied together, but don't they have their own threads?
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