Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

It was definitely more of an annoyance when the CA didn't do the walkaround on the 757 or non-ER 767s... loading all those winds on a transcon takes a while. It saves a lot of time on the uplink equipped planes like the ETOPS 75/76's, certain 737s and all the 319/320s!

As far as that DC-9, apparently one had an engine deposit its innards all over one of the inboard runways at ATL yesterday. Yowza.

Originally Posted by Sink r8

Thanks, ftb. While editing, I just realized it's sort of laid out there like a huge trap. Let's see if anyone feels offended by it, and takes the bait.

Originally Posted by Ferd149

I'm offended!

Ok, I'm offended that I didn't write it.

I think there are things that are "nice" and good leadership that will naturally survive a merger. As far as I can tell, Capts doing some walkarounds was a Western thing that worked it's self into the the old Delta tradition. Great

As New said, different ways of doing things drove the way we did stuff and some of those ways will die hard. Or as Sink said, an excuse for some (on both sides) to be lazy. But, in time good things will survive and become the way things are done "at the new Delta".

As far as the Capt always taking second break, again just a difference in corporate philosophy. NWA didn't trust FOs and they wanted a fully rested Capt in his chair for the Dept and Arrival, so second break. Also, as FOs we rotated between ourselves so when you came off 3rd break, you were done and just sat in the jumpseat vs waking up and working. Not wrong, just different and it will die as the old guys go away as the Delta way is easier (IMHO)........except when it's the Capts leg, then I like staggering out of the bunk after 3rd break and just hoping in the jumpseat for landing.

What's going to be fun is defending the way the "new" Delta does it from the whiners we merge with next

Ferd

Originally Posted by Tomcat

I just don't get why this preflight thing is such a big deal. As a southie, I've always shared preflights with the Captain unless something special was going on that required his attention or we broke the 50/50 barrier. As one of two of the first south FO's to go into a north base on a north aircraft, I was more than happy to do tbe preflights. I still like walking around the ramp after 32 years of flying. It was just a cultural difference between north and south, no better, no worse.

Two things that come to mind are; 1) RHIP! Rank has its priviledges! And 2) we have so much else going on, why waste are energy on this! Get over it! Support your Captain, by keeping him out of the SH--, you stay out of the SH--! get the job done and stay out of the Chief Pilots Office and tbe paper. For those of us that are still FO's, it won't be long before you're sitting in the Captain seat taking care of some BS and asking the FO to take care of the walk around.

To quote tsquare "geeze!"

Originally Posted by newKnow

Did I mention that when Superpilot had a dual engine fire I heard him whistling the tune "disco inferno" and singing "burn baby burn" on the way into that RNAV approach into Quito?

Not only did he extinguish the fires with his crosswind landing technique, after the tower controller played the ATC tapes on one of the local radio stations, he was a invited to the Ecuadorian version of the Grammys. I think he will be nominated for best new international artist.

Superpilot indeed.

Originally Posted by Ferd149

What's going to be fun is defending the way the "new" Delta does it from the whiners we merge with next

Ferd

Originally Posted by TenYearsGone

You do not need ETOPS for GUAM/SPN to NRT. NO-ER OPS.

However, you do need ETOPS WestCoast to Hawaiian Isle. or Hawaiian Isle. to GUAM/NRT etc.

A little black birdie told me that the 900er is going to be a Hawaiian machine.

TEN