Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1182645)

It does look amazing. Much brighter then normal. Must look great airborne.

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 1182625)

If the skies are clear where you are and you are away from city lights --
go out right now and look at how bright the moon is.

Originally Posted by Rogue24 (Post 1182494)

I think you are on to something here. Delta wants 50's parked ASAP, but probably not the ones coming off leases in the next few years, but the Pinnacle and SkyWest ones that have up to ten more years left. To park them outright will cost DAL a butt load of money. I would venture to guess it is well over a billion dollars in the DCI agreements termination clauses, and Bombardier's early lease termination provisions. If DAL were asking for more 76 seat jets, I am sure there is already an agreement in principle with the DCI carriers and Bombardier on some sort of ratio to re-negotiate the DCI contracts and Bombardier forgiving the early termination penalties.

I also assume the 319/717's would take over the 50 seat flying on a 2.5-1 ratio of block hrs, with a slight up tick in ASM's company wide. If they park what is rumored you would be looking at at least a 30% cut in DCI block hrs, with immediate hiring at mainline.

All of this is rumor, but if the downside language is there, this one is going to be almost impossible to stop.

So when do you all think the MEC will see an agreement?

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1182643)

PM sent.

It sounds like a few 76 seaters in exchange for a massive scope recapture in all areas.

If that is to belived

Originally Posted by More Bacon (Post 1182540)

I really hope DALPA is maximizing our leverage.

Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1182658)

Yes, how proud you must be of your beloved ALPA. They do the wrong thing, are found guilty by a jury, and have all motions to vacate DENIED by the judge. But do you write one sentence of regret for your beloved ALPA having done the wrong thing? Not a chance. Instead, brag about how your beloved ALPA can drag it out for 10 years. Do you even stop to think for a moment the moral high ground that ALPA loses when they behave every bit as badly as the most corrupt corporate sharks? Unreal.

Carl

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1182642)

Yes Carl, it makes me chuckle. It's FAR from over. There still has to be a hearing for damages. Then they'll likely be appeals. These trials can take 10 years. Not to mention that DPA leaves out the fact that an assessment must be approved by a member vote. Instead, they choose to imply that ALPA will just swoop in and take $30,000 out of our checks.

Originally Posted by JetFlyer06 (Post 1182731)

Who is paying for the lawyers on the TWA side of things? :confused:

Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1182696)

What you're forgetting is that Pinnacle is currently in bankruptcy, with DAL being the debtor in possession. Most FPD agreements can be terminated in bankruptcy without the usual penalties applying. I personally think the 9E bankruptcy IS the opportunity that is making DAL so hot to negotiate. They will use it to park the ~165 CRJ-200s at 9E and XJ. First, though, they're going to try to get DALPA to give up some extra 76-seaters for something they're already going to do. Just my opinion... we'll see what happens.