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TeddyKGB 05-06-2012 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1182850)
New Negotiator's Notepad out on the status of negotiations with a very details breakdown.

Good Stuff!! :D

shiznit 05-06-2012 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1182577)
Sailing, it's very encouraging to hear you say you would not vote for an increase in large RJs.

Hypothesis: Judging from the pacing of these rumors, I think something else could be at play. Think about what has happened on this board (microcosm of what is happening in the big world): The first trial balloon we saw was more 76 seaters in exchange for more mainline jets, hiring, etc. This was met (at least here) with furious opposition. That rumor died down a little, and then we started hearing about 90-seaters being in play. This was even more upsetting. Was this an attempt by mgt to manage our expectations? In other words, when we see an eventual TA with increased 76-seaters, we will be relieved because "at least it doesn't have 90-seaters!" Conjecture on my part, but...

IMHO, we need to see through these ploys and remember some key facts:

- Mgt's words ("We don't like the RJ product") violently disagree with their actions (maxing out large RJs to the contractual limit, filling LGA with them after the slot swap, focusing their advertising on large RJs with First Class, and flying them between cities like New York and Chicago.) If we let them replace everything A-320/M90 and smaller with DCI & Alaska tomorrow, I have no doubt they would do it.

- When mgt is confronted about RJs, the continual reply is that they are being parked as quickly as possible. This may be true of 50-seaters, but it is dishonest to lump them together with the big ones. Some 50-seaters are being parked...the big ones are continuing to be utilized in the most economical way as permitted by the Delta PWA.

fyp

Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1182577)
- We can fly large RJs at mainline for very close to the same cost of DCI! I'm not sure how the marginal cost savings (if there is any) is worth the sub-par service our passengers receive on DCI. For whatever reason, mgt seems hell-bent on placing as many of them on DCI as we let them (even to the detriment of the Delta image). Our kids would also eat as many Snickers as we let them, even though they are bad for their health. In both cases, let's not let them!

Actually we probably can't..... the number is much larger than most realize.

TeddyKGB 05-06-2012 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1182850)
New Negotiator's Notepad out on the status of negotiations with a very details breakdown.

Trip parking curtailed. Must now be run thru PCS. Glad that crap is going away.

buzzpat 05-06-2012 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1182886)
Trip parking curtailed. Must now be run thru PCS. Glad that crap is going away.

Amen to that!!

Erdude32 05-06-2012 01:37 PM

Look's like reserve is going to go MUCH more senior....higher guarantee and more X days. Sick leave is FIXED! So far so good!

acl65pilot 05-06-2012 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1182883)
fyp


Actually we probably can't..... the number is much larger than most realize.

The biggest savings is debt service and the overall interest on the debt.

acl65pilot 05-06-2012 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by Erdude32 (Post 1182892)
Look's like reserve is going to go MUCH more senior....higher guarantee and more X days. Sick leave is FIXED! So far so good!

Depends. More commuter friendly wording too. Looking forward to dissecting the final product. If the rest follows this line, theses pilots and their team have been working very hard.

NuGuy 05-06-2012 02:03 PM

The endgame is afoot. The NC is priming the pump.

Remember that any communication is completely vetted/edited ONLY by the MEC administration, and it's very likely your reps saw it at the same time you did.

Nu

TeddyKGB 05-06-2012 02:09 PM

How many less pilots will we need by increasing the ALV and by increasing the reserve limit fro ALV to ALV + 15?

sailingfun 05-06-2012 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1182903)
How many less pilots will we need by increasing the ALV and by increasing the reserve limit fro ALV to ALV + 15?

It will be a lot of jobs unless there are some offsets in other areas. Not something I see myself voting to ratify.


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