Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 1186796)

Guys,


We have a lot of very astute analysis of the NN going on here and as I read through the thread I am picking up on a few potential troubling misconceptions and or errors in logic:

Reserve Issues only affect a few Pilots, most who choose to be junior in category.


FALSE - Having the ability of reserves to fly more will result in less open time, less green-slip opportunity, slow movement to the left seat, slow advancement to bigger equipment.


Guys are saying, "I have been on reserve for years and never fly to ALV and never get more than 3or 4 short-calls – so the negative effects of this will be minimal."


FALSE – Do not make the huge mistake of extrapolating your last few years of experience (while DAL was almost always been over manned and shrinking) onto these new proposed work rules. Look forward to when the company tries to run us as lean as possible, we are possibly hiring, and we are always short pilots. There is a reason the company wants these efficiencies – they plan on using them.


Good times are around the corner as retirements kick in and we all advance.


IRRELEVANT – While I hope this is true it should not cloud our judgment. This will happen no matter what and has no place in this discussion. Also, lets not do anything to minimize and reduce this potential rapid advancement.



Finally – and most important. We as all Pilot groups, are at a severe negotiating disadvantage. Management is negotiating this contract with very specific future plans in mind. It is essentially putting in place the work-rules it intends to exploit in the future. We mostly, look at recent experience and say “I never hit ALV on reserve so this will not affect me. Wrong, wrong, wrong, as some on this board have said – Look at the work-rules as protection from a worst case scenario.

Management is negotiating these work-rules for a specific scenario that they intend to capitalize on. Might be a generic merger, or a merger with a specific airline, it doesn’t matter. All I can say is that when you make your decision on our next contract plan on operating within a continual worst case scenario for years to come because management has a plan for the airline. Whether worst case means no Green-slips or open time for line-holders or working your A$$ off on reserve, you can count on it. The plan obviously involves using these work-rules to get the most out of our Pilot group for years.


Scoop

Originally Posted by georgetg (Post 1186378)

As a five year Delta pilot I am still on reserve -- certainly not what I would have expected...

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1186635)

I get those in my email as well... it hasn't showed up yet nor is on DLnet. Can you PM me the text?

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1186639)

We don't even have a TA yet. You don't even know the details. You're making huge assumptions. Just wait for the actual TA. We all need to see the actual details of the actual TA before we make blanket statements.

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1186809)

ACL;

Can you PM me the text too. I want to see if the language is such that I can write off a new ipad as an unreimbursed employee expense.

For example if we can use an ipad for taxi charts, that's enough for me even without a "mandate."

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1186819)

I've been writing off my home computer and laptop and cellphone for years, and ever since we got PBS, a computer is Required, just to bid, and since you spend so much time on the road, a Laptop/iPad is required to bid, and for anyone on reserve, obviously a cell ph.

And as you see here, I ONLY use those things for work related stuff...like using the APC forum to gather info on DL pubs emails! :D

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1186821)

All it takes is one useage to justify it.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1186819)

I've been writing off my home computer and laptop and cellphone for years, and ever since we got PBS, a computer is Required, just to bid, and since you spend so much time on the road, a Laptop/iPad is required to bid, and for anyone on reserve, obviously a cell ph.

And as you see here, I ONLY use those things for work related stuff...like using the APC forum to gather info on DL pubs emails! :D

Originally Posted by Going2Baja (Post 1186805)

12 years and on reserve here...granted I could be much more senior commuting to a different base, but I live in So Cal and this is what I asked for. But there is currently no end in sight. I fly w/ 20+ guys on the 'A' side that have the same Qual of life I do but for more $$. I think there will be a large NO vote for anything that degrades the QOL for a reservist A or B.

Baja.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1186824)

And really, once you hit the AMT threshold, all the write offs start going away, even the 4 kids! So use it while you can!