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I emailed my reps this morning. They have all contacted me. Exemplary. If only my impression of the Negotiators' Notepad was the same.

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver (Post 1184262)

This is probably going to surprise you... but I agree with most of what you just posted. I am absolutely committed to the idea that our profession is no less important and valuable than it was 10 years ago and for decades prior to that. I have never accepted nor will I accept that a 42% cut, loss of pension, and outsourcing of a large percentage of our jobs is a situation that warrants a traditional approach of getting whatever modest, typical gains as if we are in a normal circumstance/condition. That is absolutely not debatable with me. And you are right, on that I will not budge, and I will continue to try and convince those who think otherwise to see it that way. I think, if you'll really be fair about it, you'll agree that most of the time I am respectful in the way I go about that.

The only place I disagree with your post is when you say that I do not consider other viewpoints. I do listen, and I do critically think about what's being said. If I see something that merits a change in my thinking, I adjust accordingly. If you'll remember, I have compromised on the idea that we should expect to get C2K+COLA all in one bite. I would accept SWA+ as a minimum level of compensation for this contract. I think that's reasonable. And part of the way I got there was some of the other opinions I have read here.

OK. I think we differ in that you're viewing this board as a place to convince those who think otherwise, and I view it as a place to debate ideas so that we individually get to the best answer. In other words, not so much as a place to teach, as much as a place to learn.

We all have some core beliefs that are not easily changed, and that's healthy. It's what happens on the fringes of that core that interests me, both for me, and for others. When I can walk away thinking I learned something new, or see some flexiblity in others, I think something good happened.

As for the last point, SWA isn't my barometer, but what I want would be compatible with what you're asking. I think you're nervous about the motivation of the group (I have some doubts about how people really fill out their surveys). I think the way to move the group forward is to uncover issues, and let people draw conclusions by themselves. I anticipate that you will probably agree on this last point, but I feel like you often blurr the line between bringing issues to light, and flat-out preaching.

And this is the choir.

Two more posts to 2,000.

What do I get at 2,000? A prize, an automatic nomination to the TOD thread, what?

RES Question: Are days of availability taken into account, or strictly buckets? IOW, 2 day trip in open time. 2 guys available, both in bucket 1. Senior guy has 2 days of availability. Junior guy has 6 days of availability. Who gets the trip assigned?

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Originally Posted by Rhino Driver (Post 1184313)

The 2 day guy. If days of availability = length of open trip then that pilot gets the trip regardless of raw or seniority.

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Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1184278)

Hey if you get a MD, does the company help in the selling of your home? Could only find lease relief.

This is about all they give and it already expired:

Real Estate Commission Upon Sale of Permanent Residence
The real estate commission incurred by him upon the sale of his permanent residence as the result of being converted from a displacement (that occurs after October 30, 2008) from a base that is closed within 24 months after October 30, 2008, will be reimbursed in an amount not to exceed $35,000, upon submission of reasonable documentation.

They also pay for a partial initial move after completing OE that my initial class was never informed about, at least not that I remember.

So where is the announcement for the 717s? I thought today was the day?

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1184224)

Three posts back... isn't that technically overboob? Or do you call it undershirt? I appreciate any illustrated answer(s).

I think we should examine this more closely.

Regards,

Sink r8.

Its technically a tap. Anybody want fresh milk from the Tap? :)

Ten

"Reserve: Ability to pick up additional on-call days for increased reserve guarantee."

isn't this the same idea as selling your vacation?

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 1184323)

Its technically a tap. Anybody want fresh milk from the Tap? :)

Ten

it's techncally fat.

somehow, we are all attracted to fat bags hanging from a womans chest.

and i'm a okay with that. ;)

p.s. not 100% sure I'm correct on the fat comment.