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Jack Bauer 05-14-2012 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by JungleBus (Post 1187768)
ALPA has accepted it but I don't see such defeatism at the various CAPA airlines. I'm not sure DPA is the answer but I'm becoming more and more convinced that ALPA has become not only useless but actually counterproductive. Eight years ago, I was among ALPA's biggest cheerleaders. It's taken a lot to turn my view 180 degrees but ALPA has managed it. The sooner they die, the sooner we can work on effective replacements.

Agreed. At my previous carrier, I was one of the biggest ALPA cheerleaders. The decision making or lack thereof (or what we could call lack of command ability and leadership) have soured many thousands of pilots.

I honestly believe the only way we can build this back into a carreer (and not just a job that sucks us dry) is to switch our bargaining agent, whether it is DPA, CAPA or some other internal organization.

I get energized when I hear where CAPA is coming from because it alligns with my own views of what needs to be done. ALPA, not so much.:mad:

Jack Bauer 05-14-2012 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy (Post 1187774)
Oh really. Care to let a few facts be interjected? Here are the pay raises that have occurred at various airlines since 2008.

DAL: 18%
NWA: 26%
LUV: 7%
CAL: 2%
AMR: 1.5%
UAL: 1.5%
AAA: 0%

So, just who are you referring to?

Typically skewed data from ALPA. Leaving out how far the bottom dropped out at carriers like Delta. Using percentages (and not dollars) it sure looks impressive. Well done Bill (Clinton).

SailorJerry 05-14-2012 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Heavy volume on DAL stock today

Very impressive volume. Half the daily average in a third of the day. Daily high within 0.02 of the 52wk high set nearly a year ago I believe. Once it breaks 11.60 the correction will be cataclysmic. Dang speculators.

Jack Bauer 05-14-2012 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1187780)
Now you've done it. Cue the "but it isn't about rates" crowd in 3...2...1...

It's a ridiclous argument.

DLpilot 05-14-2012 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by hockeypilot44 (Post 1187764)
I agree with this. If we do not merge with anyone else, I see us as a 7000 pilot workforce in 10 years. I will be at about number 6000. Pretty good. 15 years with the company to get to 6000 out of 7000 pilots during our period of massive retirements. We will have managed to avoid furloughing anyone during that time while our entire narrowbody fleet smaller than the 737-900 is outsourced. This is all speculation of course.


If you are so doom and gloom about your career at Delta then why are you still here. Your post have nothing to do with facts. I would not even call it speculation.

acl65pilot 05-14-2012 07:41 AM


Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1187791)
Very impressive volume. Half the daily average in a third of the day. Daily high within 0.02 of the 52wk high set nearly a year ago I believe. Once it breaks 11.60 the correction will be cataclysmic. Dang speculators.


11:01 AM
Strange doing with shares of Delta Air Lines (DAL) after trading is halted after the stock trips up circuit breakers on a relatively timid 1.1% upside move. Over 5M shares of DAL have already been swapped today in early action, although traders are madly tweeting that a fat finger trade could be behind the drama

or so they say.....

SailorJerry 05-14-2012 07:43 AM

Super wild...

acl65pilot 05-14-2012 07:43 AM

Unless I and others have been totally lied to, the only way this agreement comes to the pilots is with growth and some progression, not stagnation and furloughs.


Wait for the darn TA!!!! If we make it through the week without a TA, I will be floored. We will have 60 days; unless there is a pressing reason to shorten the time frame, to to rip it to shreds.

acl65pilot 05-14-2012 07:48 AM

Delta to Present at Bank of America Merrill Lynch 2012 Global Transportation Conference


ATLANTA, May 14, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (DAL) will present at the Bank of America Merrill Lynch 2012 Global Transportation Conference at 8:40 a.m. ET on Thursday, May 17, 2012.

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A live webcast of this event can be accessed via the internet at: Webcasts.

The online replay will be available at the same site shortly after the webcast is complete until July 17, 2012.

Delta Air Lines serves more than 160 million customers each year. During the past year, Delta was named domestic "Airline of the Year" by the readers of Travel Weekly magazine, was named the "Top Tech-Friendly U.S. Airline" by PCWorld magazine for its innovation in technology and won the Business Travel News Annual Airline Survey. With an industry-leading global network, Delta and the Delta Connection carriers offer service to nearly 350 destinations in 62 countries on six continents. Headquartered in Atlanta, Delta employs 80,000 employees worldwide and operates a mainline fleet of more than 700 aircraft. A founding member of the SkyTeam global alliance, Delta participates in the industry's leading trans-Atlantic joint venture with Air France-KLM and Alitalia. Including its worldwide alliance partners, Delta offers customers more than 13,000 daily flights, with hubs in Amsterdam, Atlanta, Cincinnati, Detroit, Memphis, Minneapolis-St. Paul, New York-LaGuardia, New York-JFK, Paris-Charles de Gaulle, Salt Lake City and Tokyo-Narita. The airline's service includes the SkyMiles frequent flier program, a world-class airline loyalty program; the award-winning BusinessElite service; and more than 50 Delta Sky Clubs in airports worldwide. Delta is investing more than $2 billion through 2013 in airport facilities and global products, services and technology to enhance the customer experience in the air and on the ground. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes, check bags and review flight status at delta.com.

Delta to Present at Bank of America Merrill Lynch 2012 Global Transportation Conference - Yahoo! Finance

Timbo 05-14-2012 08:08 AM

I'm guessing here but...was this "Presentation" scheduled a long time ago?

Or is this something 'new', ie. the announcement that Delta has signed a T/A with it's pilots, including a 45% raise, purchase of Alaska, and Hawaiian, and AA's South American routes and facilities in MIA, and 80 717's, and 50 777's and a Bazzillion RJ's to be flown by Mainline Pilots?

And soon Delta will "Rule the World"!

Cue the Doctor Evil laugh track...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5geiIWowtAI&feature=fvst


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