Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1188413)

I'm typing on the iphone so excuse the pending mess...

I realize I am in the minority with raising reserve guarantee, but I'd rather see the rates increased rather than staffing decreased.

Say we went from a hard 70 hours to 80 hours. The company is not going to allow us to be full at 70 but get paid 80. They'll want us for the 80 hours. 10 more hours by 1 pilot means 1/8th of another not needed. In theory if we have 80 pilots in a category, get rid of 10 for the same amount of flying.


And not so in theory, I wonder if the 60 hour reserve month baseline in the pbs staffing formula will need to be moved higher?

Imho, an increase in pay for a reduction in staffing is never the way and i get nervous when I see the reserve guarantee monkied with or for people to demand a higher guarantee without thinking of the consequences.

Not sure if you ment it this way but I don't see an increase in flight hours as an increase in pay. Yes, you get paid more but at the same hourly rate. (Here is where I show my ignorance) But I don't think it is that simple to say if there is a 10 hour increase in reserve guarantee that you potentially lose 1 pilot for every 8. I think there are quite a few other things which affect this including the staffing formula.

As to the picking up x days. As a senior reserve guy this gives me a plan. Say we could do that today, what I would do is bid weeekends off so I don't work and then put most of my week days off at the end of the month in case I do ever come up for flying. Surely I'd come up for SC by then. Anyways, I'd plan on picking up 3 reserve days at the end, say a Fri-Sun that I had off. It'd probably be all I work so jackpot!!!

I could get a near 80 hours of pay on 15 hours of work.

I tell my buddy, he does the same, he tells three others and so on. All of a sudden covering trips with low reserve coverage magically is just happening now. No GSs needed, fewer WSs needed, fewer reserves may be needed.

I'd hope the TA has protections from ourselves because like trip parking nobody ever seems to think of the ramifications of their money making schemes.

Very wise words for one so young grasshopper!!!:) I remember when we could sell vacation back. Talk about affecting staffing!!:eek:

Originally Posted by DogWhisperer (Post 1188494)

Originally Posted by Ed Harley (Post 1188540)

TA announced.

Originally Posted by Ball Breaker (Post 1188543)

Yeap.

- Still below SWA rates
- More 76 seaters

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1188528)

I'm guessing the MEC will want to look it over and discuss it for at least a day or two, before they vote...and then we see the details...?

Or will we see the details before the MEC votes on it, so we can "Provide Input" to our reps, before they vote?