Originally Posted by Ball Breaker (Post 1188543)

Yeap.

- Still below SWA rates
- More 76 seaters

Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 1188551)

There is no way you could know that(even if those were somehow terms in the TA).....

Stop rumor mongering!

Originally Posted by Tab Flyer (Post 1188537)

If there is anything to the 717 rumor, expecting that deal to be announced soon.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1188557)

I've heard several different things concerning our contract. One of the several different things was growth could be right around the corner, hence, some concessions here and there on staffing issues to handle both NB and WB growth. That's all just rumors. And on principle I'd hope the NC would know better (and I think they do) than to agree to say yes to giving something up on paper in exchange for the company promising to do something in return, like grow, that's legitimately not on paper.

Whatever, that's kind of messy. Probably not what's going on anyways so wait til the TA, right?

But 717s announcement around the same time as a TA would make sense. A tangible promise of some "growth" greater than our current trajectory "so now look at the TA in a different light" kind of thing. A little euphoria would help the TA go better right? Kind of like how sex is the Novocain that makes marriage possible- growth is like the Novocain that makes a squishy TA palatable?

But just like I don't want to give up staffing to make more money, I don't want to give up something in a contract for an unwritten promise.

I welcome 717s with open arms, but Section 1 and Section 2-28 of the TA are separate issues.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1188552)

Policy manual states seven days. If there is a pressing issue that necessitates it going to pilot vote they can reduce this and the 60 day memrat window. Time will tell.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1188564)

I'm a little confused...7 days for what?

For the MEC to vote on it?

Or for them to show it to the pilot group?

And is that a maximum or a minimum amount of time?

And can we expect to see any 'details' sooner than 7 days?

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1188557)

I've heard several different things concerning our contract. One of the several different things was growth could be right around the corner, hence, some concessions here and there on staffing issues to handle both NB and WB growth. That's all just rumors. And on principle I'd hope the NC would know better (and I think they do) than to agree to say yes to giving something up on paper in exchange for the company promising to do something in return, like grow, that's legitimately not on paper.

Whatever, that's kind of messy. Probably not what's going on anyways so wait til the TA, right?

But 717s announcement around the same time as a TA would make sense. A tangible promise of some "growth" greater than our current trajectory "so now look at the TA in a different light" kind of thing. A little euphoria would help the TA go better right? Kind of like how sex is the Novocain that makes marriage possible- growth is like the Novocain that makes a squishy TA palatable?

But just like I don't want to give up staffing to make more money, I don't want to give up something in a contract for an unwritten promise.

I welcome 717s with open arms, but Section 1 and Section 2-28 of the TA are separate issues.

Originally Posted by Timbo (Post 1188564)

I'm a little confused...7 days for what?

For the MEC to vote on it?

Or for them to show it to the pilot group?

And is that a maximum or a minimum amount of time?

And can we expect to see any 'details' sooner than 7 days?