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02-17-2019, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GivemeVSP
So why are you spreading FUD and other BS on this forum?
02-17-2019, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Go back and read my posts. I stated it was rumored. The schedule block is however fact. I have confirmed all the trip drops are coded ALPA as a fact. All these forums are about is rumors. In this case the MEC has pledged to be very open in all its dealings with the pilots. I do not find a single word about this incident anywhere on the ALPA website.
Thanks for propogating and undermining our bargaining agent leading into openers.
Are you management?
02-17-2019, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Trips are all coded ALPA for Feb and Mar.
If anything even remotely close to what's rumored happened, there's obviously an investigation going on with potentially serious consequences. The person in question being a rep doesn't mean all privacy and due process go out the window. Likewise, transparency doesn't mean completely open source live real time streaming of every detail.
I'm 100% fine with a couple months of ALPA leave (with pay) while this very serious issue is looked into and all sides are given their chance to make their case and its looked at with cooler heads far, far, far away from the "hey did you hear?!?!" forum peanut gallery pitchfork mob demanding instant street justice along with live streaming access to every aspect of the process. Anything short of that and there's really no point in even having a union.
02-17-2019, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunfighter
Curious why the 765 is a true widebody, but the 767 is not. 
Same width, similar destinations, mix of domestic and intl... Should we revisit the definitions now that the venerable 747 is gone?
I propose:
Super Premium Widebody - Cappuccino machine, Dual Crew
Premium Widebody - Normally over 12 hours, but no cappuccino
Widebody - International three pilot crews
Wannabe Widebody - Twin Aisle, Twin Pilot domestic and Hawaii is Domestic!!
The top of the 7ER list will likely end up on the 330, bringing that down a bit into the 4,000 range. The bottom of the 7ER will fill out the 320/73N categories as they grow.
Over the hypothetical 30 year career we are discussing, there will be more new airplanes like the 797 and retirements of just about everything currently in the fleet.
Same width, similar destinations, mix of domestic and intl... Should we revisit the definitions now that the venerable 747 is gone?I propose:
Super Premium Widebody - Cappuccino machine, Dual Crew
Premium Widebody - Normally over 12 hours, but no cappuccino
Widebody - International three pilot crews
Wannabe Widebody - Twin Aisle, Twin Pilot domestic and Hawaii is Domestic!!
The top of the 7ER list will likely end up on the 330, bringing that down a bit into the 4,000 range. The bottom of the 7ER will fill out the 320/73N categories as they grow.
Over the hypothetical 30 year career we are discussing, there will be more new airplanes like the 797 and retirements of just about everything currently in the fleet.
02-17-2019, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
I'm 100% fine with a couple months of ALPA leave (with pay) while this very serious issue is looked into
Many of us have "very serious (personal) issues" and don't lean on ALPA pay to get ourselves through them financially unscathed. Just because an ALPA rep allegedly committed assault doesn't mean it's an ALPA issue, just like him beating his wife wouldn't have been an ALPA issue either.
02-17-2019, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Any updates on the SEA MEC chairman situation. Heard a nasty rumor that ALPA paid his salary in Feb and will again in March. Hard to tell since somehow his schedule is blocked. Did we not fight for and win a grievance to insure schedules would not be blocked?
02-17-2019, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TED74
ALPA pay is to do ALPA stuff for ALPA pilots. ALPA pay is not (in my understanding) to give someone time to cool off and recover from their own missteps. If a guy or gal can't accomplish their work obligations, they are free to drop trips, take a PLOA, use sick leave where appropriate or otherwise coordinate with the company to get their stuff in a sock.
Many of us have "very serious (personal) issues" and don't lean on ALPA pay to get ourselves through them financially unscathed. Just because an ALPA rep allegedly committed assault doesn't mean it's an ALPA issue, just like him beating his wife wouldn't have been an ALPA issue either.
Many of us have "very serious (personal) issues" and don't lean on ALPA pay to get ourselves through them financially unscathed. Just because an ALPA rep allegedly committed assault doesn't mean it's an ALPA issue, just like him beating his wife wouldn't have been an ALPA issue either.
02-17-2019, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I have absolutely no problem with him being on paid administrative leave while an investigation is conducted. Thats standard practice almost everywhere.
02-17-2019, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
I have absolutely no problem with him being on paid administrative leave while an investigation is conducted. Thats standard practice almost everywhere.
I honestly don’t know, but that should be the standard by which this guy is held to. What’s good for the goose....and all that.
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