I take it from the postings that legacy is no longer a consideration for employment. I have two sons heading to the regionals about this time next year, and I have briefed them that the landscape will be different 4-5 years from now. They're both "on campus" college grads. Western Carolina and Wisconsin. If the personnel guys at DAL went to Citadel or Michigan, they will be screwed, therefore voiding the 25 letters of recommendation that will be in the hopper.

 

If I were hiring, I'd pass on anyone with 25 rec letters. No way I want to fly with someone willing to ask 25 people to spend their time trying to get themselves hired.

Or their dad is a weird Tomkitty driver.

 

Hopefully this is some form of a joke I missed. Otherwise, you sound like someone I don’t wanna fly with. If it’s the former please disregard the latter.

 

It was supposed to be humorous. But I also don't know if this ex-Navy cat was serious about 25 rec letters.

I've written a ton of rec letters, and spent too much time on every one of them. Most of the folks I've recommended have been hired...a credit to them and not to me. None of them have had more than 5 rec letters. If someone asked me to write a rec letter, knowing full well what goes into writing a good and personalized one (probably making multiple variants to submit to multiple carriers), and I asked them how many folks had put in a good word... the last thing I want to hear is "24."

I'm not in hiring, so my opinion doesn't matter... but 25 rec letters is so far out of (what I suspect is) the norm that I'm not sure it would help. Would 6 to 9 good ones not have been enough? Is the app not strong enough to stand on its own merit? How many ways can we say "Hire this ace of the base before the competition scoops him up!"?

I've been a reference for over a dozen applicants and have never gotten a call from Delta. None of my references or employers were ever contacted. An applicant has to get and win the interview pretty much on his own, and a lone internal rec gets one's app the requisite review.

 

Very well said! I think Delta aims to hire people with good judgment. I'm not sure having 25 rec letters actually reflects that.

 

Idk how i slipped through.

 

What times are competitive for guard/reserves?

 

You're correct. The 25 recommendation letters was set forth as a point of humor. The utmost cockpit humor was when I rode the jump seat on a DAL 747 in the mid 70's. I was working for another carrier, got the cold shoulder from the 3 crew members, but I had to listen to that former C&S Captain (ORD) complain about how he got screwed on the seniority integration...over 4 hours from ATL-LAX. I am guessing that he got stove piped. I am still laughing about how upset he was.

 

I was hired last year with 4.5k reserve hours 750 Sic C130, 3K PC12 mostly PIC/IP, 750 Do328 PIC/IP
But I did also have 2k+ part 91 flying GIII all the way to C150.

 

Hello

Know this is a long shot , but I thought I’d ask.

Is it worth even putting in an app if we don’t have 1000 turbine ? I’m at about 800 only (don’t laugh). Looking through here there’s some people with some impressive experience . I’d really like to get to Delta and am patiently waiting to apply but at the same time don’t want to look like an idiot. Should I even put something in when I hit 1000 hours turbine , or wait for some PIC time (which is going to be 3-4 years probably from now).

Also wanted to ask, how long does one take to get to MSP nowadays ? I heard it’s really senior but getting better as time passes.