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Old 08-24-2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by HIREME
Not the same test but similar to an ATP with questions related togeneral jet engines and high altitude flying (test started around 2005, i believe). The Turbine Pilots Flight Manual was the go to guide for the written...if you read that and studied for the ATP, you were golden.
Is that the same "general jet engines and high altitude flying" test that made you "golden" to dick around in a CRJ at 41,000 feet? Or the same ATP study guide that told you how to properly declare an emergency after above said dicking around caused your turbines to flameout? Or was that not mentioned in the "Turbine Pilots Flight Manual"?
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Old 08-24-2013 | 06:57 AM
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Is that the same "general jet engines and high altitude flying" test that ...



The flow was through the boost pumps and past a low-pressure sensor, through two check valves, and finally through the engine fuel shutoff valve. There is a boost pump bypass valve which allows fuel to be drawn from the tank by the engine pumps even if all boost pumps are off. Fuel flow is the same for tanks 1 and 3 except that they have two boost pumps each instead of four. There are standpipes to keep you from pumping below 2,300 pounds and the crossfeeds need to be closed if you have the dump valves open, right?

So lets say we need to dump 12,000 pounds and ...

727 Fuel dumping problems were still on the test in 2007.

Now lets talk about LEMAC and then we're talking about F4's.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Is that the same "general jet engines and high altitude flying" test that ...



The flow was through the boost pumps and past a low-pressure sensor, through two check valves, and finally through the engine fuel shutoff valve. There is a boost pump bypass valve which allows fuel to be drawn from the tank by the engine pumps even if all boost pumps are off. Fuel flow is the same for tanks 1 and 3 except that they have two boost pumps each instead of four. There are standpipes to keep you from pumping below 2,300 pounds and the crossfeeds need to be closed if you have the dump valves open, right?

So lets say we need to dump 12,000 pounds and ...


727 Fuel dumping problems were still on the test in 2007.

Now lets talk about LEMAC and then we're talking about F4's.

Nice...
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:22 AM
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727 Fuel dumping problems were still on the test in 2007.
It's good to see the FAA is right on top of things in aviation. At the LEMAC, you might say.

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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
More than one.

Probably not the same person, but you can look right here on this board and find Pinnacle pilots who state they're expecting some sort of seniority integration which recognizes their longevity.

Don't want to argue about it. It is what it is, and it is funny.
Stir the pot bud, sure. Next time one of our pilots says this to you, take it to pro-stans. $100 says they'll never get a call. Cause it never happened. If it did, damn you're gullible to sarcasm. lol
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Pinnacle pilots are telling very senior Delta Captains that "we already have seniority numbers" and "we will be flying next to you." Apparently, they've already got it all worked out and only need to show up, accept their entitlement and be given a hat to lose.

Sorry, I don't buy it. The very senior Delta Captains don't even know who/what Pinnacle/Endeavor is, they wouldn't care or remember the name of the airline of said pilot. Even if someone did say something even remotely similar to this it would be like playing the telephone game, the message that went into the ear of the first person would be totally different than the message coming out of the mouth of the person at the end of the line. Besides, maybe it was one of the 80 something flow eligible pilots who do essentially have a seniority number, remember there is a guaranteed flow also.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:38 AM
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I have heard it from 9E guys, also a Delta CA I know has told me hes heard things from JSers to imply they already had a job. Hell, I was on the employee bus one day and heard this 9E Ca telling some FA how they already "pretty much" have jobs its just a quick 15 min. HR chat.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by xjcrew1
Stir the pot bud, sure. Next time one of our pilots says this to you, take it to pro-stans. $100 says they'll never get a call. Cause it never happened. If it did, damn you're gullible to sarcasm. lol
Originally Posted by Mesabah
Many Pinnacle Pilots have said this, there's also numerous posts on our web boards saying it.
I got a fat stack of pesos worth Col$10,000.00 that says you will welch on your $100 web board bet. How is a group of regional pilots taking concessions to screw another group of regional pilots out of interview slots a pro-standards issue for us?
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Old 08-24-2013 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by xjcrew1
Stir the pot bud, sure. Next time one of our pilots says this to you, take it to pro-stans. $100 says they'll never get a call. Cause it never happened. If it did, damn you're gullible to sarcasm. lol
I think most pilots here present some sort of fallacy, which manipulate the facts to back up their particular view point. My opinion is that Bucking Bar is one of the most level headed and balanced personalities associated with Delta Air Lines on APC. I will bet you a six pack that he can cite his sources.
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Old 08-24-2013 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cornbeef007
I will bet you a six pack that he can cite his sources.
I can, but what if I like the guy and don't want to embarrass him?

None the less, I'll let my $4 worth of Columbian pocket change do my talking ... COL$10,000 to whoever can get $100 out of xjcrew1. Send his donation to:

The Delta Pilots’ Charitable Fund (DPCF)
100 HARTSFIELD CENTRE PARKWAY, SUITE 200
ATLANTA, GA 30354

Everyone knows that Jumpseat tales can get pretty far out there.
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