Of the 8,000 applications on hand, how many do you think are Mil?

 

Your guess is as good as mine...I have no inside info.

 

I would think less than half. You would assume most PICs at the regional level have their application in, then add to that the number of people who transitioned to a national airline to get to the majors both left and right seat, then add the corporate and fractional pilot group. Those numbers by themselves should be well over 5000 and that's not including hopefuls just putting in their application for luck's sake (many of my FOs have them in at my regional) . So if Delta truly has only 8000 applications I would say the good majority is not military, they just have a preference for that in their pilot group.

 

Not many.... Gunship's perspective is skewed cause all he knows is military. If you are in the military you mostly know military pilots and vice versa.

Just like when you are in the military, you assume that almost all people are drug free and show up for work on time with initiative. If you ever open a small business.....you find out real soon that is not so.

 

Maybe it's changed since I was a regional FO about 3 years ago but at the time 9 out of 10 PICs I flew with did not have apps out. I was constantly disappointed in people because they didn't have their logbook up to date and weren't sure where they wanted to go and "oh... I'll apply in a year things are good here right now." Then I realized every one of these guys was one more less person competing for the job!

 

Again I think you're focus may be off on the GPA. A lot of info can be gleaned from airline apps. In reference to just the college section alone:Which school for that GPA? They like Riddle, UND and Purdue type aviation degrees. How long did it take for that GPA? What awards scholarships or extra curricular were being pursued while getting said GPA?
It's hard to decipher their rhyme or reason. I know there are guys with what I think are more impressive resumes than mine still waiting for the call. But just because you or I think something is more competitive for a call doesn't mean Delta does.

 

I couldn't agree more. I think their are very few TPIC pilots that have applied. If i had to guess and this would simply be a guess. I would say that of the 8,000 applications; 2000 are military, 2000 are TPIC and the rest are FO's. It seems almost every FO that I fly with has applied but of the 1500 captains at the regional I fly with, I find very few captains that have applied.

I can tell you for a fact from the VP of flight ops told me that DAL has 11,000 applications and only 8,000 meet their minimum qualifications. He also said they have only gone through 1,100 of the 8,000 qualified apps too. This was about a month ago when he told me this.

 

Probably not as high as 90% today, but with that I will say, I am very surprised at how many captains at Endeavor have elected to not participate in the SSP program. There are few that have legit reasons to stay at Endeavor, (close to retirement, like current QOL AND have made enough money doing other things, Living in base).

 

3 years ago, no one was hiring. Today many regionals are shriveling up and imploding. I am sure that in today's regional world that you would find almost every CA's out there have their apps out.

 

I agree. I think their is more to it than a GPA but I think the GPA plays a large percentage of your total score in getting the interview. It took me 6 years to get my degree and I know a guy that does the interviews, told me that was a big red flag for DAL. They look at where you went to school, what degree you got in school, how long it took you to get the degree and your GPA. I know two civilians that recently got the interview and were hired, they both were not able to check any extra boxes for check airman or anything like that. They both are captains and have around 8,000 total hours. One of them went to UVU and and got a degree in aviation science in 4 years with a 3.9 GPA the other got his degree in 4 years from embry riddle and had a 3.7 GPA. So I think GPA and time to get your degree are factors in determining your score for that reason. Don't get me wrong these guys had other great things to get them the interview but so do a lot of other pilots so the degree seems to be the only thing that set them apart from all the other 8,000 TPIC guys.