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Old 08-18-2014, 09:42 AM
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Define quickly? 500 plus questions done in 15 minutes, maybe. Who knows, but if you got "flagged" the only response you will get is, "cleared to train" or "you didn't make it." Out of your hands at this point.
Sort of. There have been some people that get to take the MMPI AGAIN (twice), then they receive the "cleared to train".
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Old 08-18-2014, 09:58 AM
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There is nothing unusual about the pass rates on hiring. The pilots being called in for a interview off the street all have fantastic overall records or they would not have been called in the first place. If your called from off the street Delta has already said your qualified. They are picking people from a very deep pool of applicants after years of no real hiring. As the pool gets more shallow the interview pass rate will drop also.
As pointed out in the Endevour threads when the apply the Standards Delta likes to see to in non flying background the applicants pool is very small. If you took a look at those not passing the interview coming from the SSP you will find the resumes would not have been pulled for a interview had they been in the off the street stack. As the off the street applications become weaker as all the majors swing into a massive hiring modes the pass rates will more closely match up.
That's what I was going to say. When Delta is forced to interview everyone in seniority order based upon the SSP, you know there are some of those that they really just don't want to interview at all based on the resume and employment records they get from Endeavor. However, they have no choice to do so due to the terms of the SSP. So Delta calls them in, goes through the process, and those guys don't get hired. Sucks for them because they at least thought they had a shot. With no SSP they never would have been called in the first place and been given the idea they had a chance.

What I still don't get is the fact that Delta trusts that those they don't "see fit to fly for Delta" can still fly the same passengers on CRJ-900's.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:16 AM
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What I still don't get is the fact that Delta trusts that those they don't "see fit to fly for Delta" can still fly the same passengers on CRJ-900's.
Neither here nor there. But that's one of the biggest ironies of the regional/"commuter" business arrangement.

And it wouldn't matter the size of the aircraft, could be a B1900/Metroliner and irony would STILL exist.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy View Post
What I still don't get is the fact that Delta trusts that those they don't "see fit to fly for Delta" can still fly the same passengers on CRJ-900's.
This is a perfect illustration that number one priority of DCI is to be a cheap source of lift and a "good enough" group of employees to serve Delta pax. The product is marketed as the same and seamless. Yet when it comes time to hire, they can find enough distinction between "us and them" so as to not hire all of us or even staple us to their list. I will concede that current Delta pilots as well as those receiving CJOs probably have higher qualifications than the average Endeavor pilot. But it would be disingenuous to say that the skill set that we all employ day to day on the line is materially different.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:22 AM
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Neither here nor there. But that's one of the biggest ironies of the regional/"commuter" business arrangement.

And it wouldn't matter the size of the aircraft, could be a B1900/Metroliner and irony would STILL exist.

Yeah, I agree. It's probably not so much that they don't think they will perform safely as a flight crew member as it is they may just be a pain in the ass as an employee.
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:28 AM
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Yeah, I agree. It's probably not so much that they don't think they will perform safely as a flight crew member as it is they may just be a pain in the ass as an employee.
The above is the most likely reason. Delta must not let other airlines hire pilots for us. Even a flow through should have a basic interview to learn a little about the personality of the pilot (ahole check).
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Yeah, I agree. It's probably not so much that they don't think they will perform safely as a flight crew member as it is they may just be a pain in the ass as an employee.
Don't disagree with that at all.

But the same point as previously made could apply to pilots that made went through the full interview process, were turned down, and are now working at that airline through merge/acquisition, etc.

Yeah, I get it, the company takes on that point knowing it in the merge/acquisition. Yet the irony still exists. That pilot was STILL deemed to much of a pain in the ass to work with, and now has to be worked with. Or, that pilot would not have even been picked out of the stack in the first place, etc.
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Old 08-18-2014, 05:38 PM
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In case anyone needs a data point:
I got hired last month after 1 year out of the cockpit (ret AF). Was worried lack of currency might become an issue, but I guess not.
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Old 08-18-2014, 05:45 PM
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Can anybody explain why the most junior 73N ATL lineholder is about the same seniority number as the most junior 717 ATL lineholder? (or is the Aug and Sep sched not typical?) Also, they say they are going to give out what 78 73Ns to new hires? Which is about the same as 717s. I guess I am not seeing how you will be stuck longer as the plug in the 73N.
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Old 08-18-2014, 05:50 PM
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I guess I am not seeing how you will be stuck longer as the plug in the 73N.
737 pays more.

when 717 guys get sick of 5 legs a day to JAN and HSV, they'll bid in over top of the plug into the 737.
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