Paok

What are they showing went unfilled?

80ktsClamp

They don't show unfilled.. you have to do the math yourself. For the first time, it looks like the ATL 320 is going to be available to newhires. 2 years ago the most junior guy to hold a line in it could hold NYC 88 captain!

Will

If you get the 88 it's not that bad. The NY crews are great and the plane well, it's a handful for the FO but it fly's nice.

nwaf16dude

Unfilled positions from this AE, based on my math;

Atl7erb- 9
ATL 73b-32
NYC 73b-28
Atl320b-14
Nyc320b-29
Atlm88b-61
Nycm88-37
Atl717b-44

MoonShot

Based on people leaving etc..., I get the following not filled (some maybe due to no backfill):

ATL7ERB = 9
DTW7ERB = 1 (probably no backfill)
MSP7ERB = 1 (probably no backfill)
NYC7ERB = 7 (hard to tell, they backfilled some, so might not have had enough bidders)
ATL73NB = 33
CVG73NB = 1 (probably no backfill, but maybe no bidders)
NYC73NB = 37
ATL320B = 15
MSP320B = 2 (again, hard to tell)
NYC320B = 37
ATLM88B = 77
NYCM88B = 46
ATL717B = 45

My math is subject to interpretation

LloydC

What are the ATL NB categories like for new hires? Trip types and time to hold a line? Sounds like best QOL for NYC NBs is 88 then 73 then the bus. Is it the same for ATL?

Fly Faster

I got almost the same math, but only 1 MSP 320 and 78 ATL M88 (but who's counting? ).

Razor

I was hired at the end of '07 and got the ER in NYC. That was before there was any domestic flying in the category at all and it was fantastic. I held a line right out of training. But then change happened. I finally got tired of reserve and trips to Georgetown so a few years ago I decided to bid over to the 73 and be a line holder again.

I'm also about an hour away from EWR and was really looking forward to the shorter drive and no bridge tolls. Crossing a bridge in NY is crazy expensive! But alas, change happened again and there are few EWR departures for the NYC 73 and I'm not senior enough to touch them. Now I fly a lot of the Caribbean turns from JFK which I like, even though they do make for a long day.

I think you're doing a good job trying to make the best decision you can based on the information you have available. Just realize one of the reasons Delta has been as successful as it has been lately is because they move the different airplanes in and out of markets. They work hard to get the capacity to match the demand. Good luck and welcome aboard!

ghilis101

Thanks Razor! Sounds like change is definitely good for business. Being very junior in my class is bad because I may not be able to choose my equipment, but its also good because, well, I may not be able to choose my equipment haha. All 3 narrowbodies in NYC will have their pros and cons, I'm partial to the airbus for various reasons but Im sure I would end up adapting to/loving the md88. Im going to assume the 73n will not make its way to the bottom of our class, but who knows, each class is different.

milky

I got two fix-it emails today (stupid on my part). Is that still a good sign? Are people getting interview calls?