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Old 04-30-2015 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fegelein
According to the "Derg" on JC, Delta wants applicants that volunteer with outside activities, not with the best aviation qualifications.
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So far, it seems that "the key" is volunteerism. The people that I know who were hired that weren't part of the "flow", SSP or "I threw footballs at the USAFA" were h e a v i l y into volunteerism.

Do I like the system the powers that be have set up, absolutely a discussion for "Story Time with Uncle Derg" because I certainly have strong opinions about parts of the process, but it is what it is and you don't have to like it, but if you want the job you have to hold your nose and deal with it.

I gather they're looking for people who are going to be "more than pilots". Hell, even I'm in the ambassador program (doing a trade show next week!) and I'm at the point in my career where I could be resting on my laurels. They want sharp, motivated people and you can't swing a dead cat and smack fifty of them so their discriminator, right now, seems to be those that are volunteers.

I didn't do it. I'm just giving you a peek into the box.
They do want more than "just a line pilot". Volunteer work does help and it is important.

But the whole "key" comment....bull. We aren't the Red Cross.

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Old 04-30-2015 | 09:48 PM
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Regarding the flight time grid, what about if you are or were flying multiple types at the same time, ie contract corporate pilot while also full time, or corporate with multiple types etc. Would these scenarios raise a red flag for inaccurate info?
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Old 05-01-2015 | 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 14Kayr
They do want more than "just a line pilot". Volunteer work does help and it is important.

But the whole "key" comment....bull. We aren't the Red Cross.
Here's the thing. I know "Derg." We went through ER initial together. He's now an Airbus captain who is a personal friend of AK. To say he has an insider view of what they want is an understatement. Think of him as E.F. Hutton.



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Old 05-01-2015 | 03:56 AM
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Ok, I do the following things: make sandwiches for the homeless (church deal), youth soccer coach, youth basketball coach, gave presentations at th local school about aviation(math related), habitat for humanity with my church. How do u list those things? I havent won any awards for best volunteer so I am not even sure how to list these things
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Old 05-01-2015 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 14Kayr
They do want more than "just a line pilot". Volunteer work does help and it is important.

But the whole "key" comment....bull. We aren't the Red Cross.
The Derg is very well connected with DAL hiring. If he says it "key" then it's "key". One of his "boys" got hired at DAL recently. Black, RJ F/O with zero TPIC that was heavily into outside volunteer activities.
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Old 05-01-2015 | 08:51 AM
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4/29 Group: 12 of 16 hired

1 civ, 2 mil, 1 unknown.

Glad to say I'll be wearing a widget on my hat. Good luck to all, the process was as advertised.
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Old 05-01-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RJcursed4life
4/29 Group: 12 of 16 hired

1 civ, 2 mil, 1 unknown.

Glad to say I'll be wearing a widget on my hat. Good luck to all, the process was as advertised.
Congrats gotta change your screen name now
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Old 05-01-2015 | 12:36 PM
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Congrats gotta change your screen name now
Absolutely...congrats.....

Sorry to thread-drift here, so you can respond privately....

Looking at a FSI school-house opportunity in ATL as well...with that said, we've been investigating places to live....

Wife is a product of the Buckhead area and private schools...NEITHER of which are on the table here ;-)

So, North Fulton is an option as is the Woodstock area..both great schools (that's a mandate) and lower taxes up in Cherokee county...

But a steady diet of that drive, at least from the Woodstock area would suck....

So...what are good options to the south, schools, kid-friendly neighborhoods, etc..?

Thanks, again, PM's would be good....
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Old 05-01-2015 | 01:38 PM
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There's a "living in Atlanta" thread somewhere that has some good info for you. I just bought in Fayetteville off Redwine Road.

Schools were huge deal for us too, Fayette county schools are good.

I met plenty of sim instructors that lived on North side and made the drive work. Didn't sound too fun to me. Woodstock looked nice and I think the drive is ok (for North side), though the braves are building a stadium up that way.

Good luck
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Old 05-01-2015 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Columbusohio
Ok, I do the following things: make sandwiches for the homeless (church deal), youth soccer coach, youth basketball coach, gave presentations at th local school about aviation(math related), habitat for humanity with my church. How do u list those things? I havent won any awards for best volunteer so I am not even sure how to list these things
I do volunteer work at the VA, so it was easy listing it like a job. I put the volunteer coordinator as the supervisor with phone number and address. The VA gives us a badge and title of Regular Service Volunteer, so that I what I used as a title.

For your church activities, I'd put the name of the church, phone number, and whomever is in charge of organizing activities, such those, as the supervisor. Generic beginning date to present, then be descriptive using words for computers to find and score that tell them some of the things that you do. For your coaching work, if it is for the city/school/youth group, list those as your employer and a coordinators name as a supervisor. Again, be descriptive.

From what little perspective I had during the interview, I don't know that more "volunteering" is better, but they do like to see guys doing something for the community. Be humble about it. I don't think they want guys wearing servitude on their sleeve or trying to collect "likes", but they need something to separate the 3000 hour military pilots apart, or the 8000 hour PART121 pilots apart.

Good luck!
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