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Old 05-23-2015, 11:43 AM
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$50 a year gets you unlimited S3s and 6 S2s for your eligible riders. Parents get S3B1, unless traveling with the employee. If you don't have kids, they get better. There are some other details too. You also get 8 passes. They can be either RT or OW. Best to always purchase RT. You can always change it later. The cost is based on the distance they are going. ATL/LAX is gonna cost more than ATL/ STL. Only time it costs you more for family is traveling g international. PFCs and departure/arrival taxes are payroll deducted.

With load factors in the 90s, S4s can sit for days sometimes depending on where they are/going.
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob View Post
$50 a year gets you unlimited S3s and 6 S2s for your eligible riders. Parents get S3B1, unless traveling with the employee. If you don't have kids, they get better. There are some other details too. You also get 8 passes. They can be either RT or OW. Best to always purchase RT. You can always change it later. The cost is based on the distance they are going. ATL/LAX is gonna cost more than ATL/ STL. Only time it costs you more for family is traveling g international. PFCs and departure/arrival taxes are payroll deducted.

With load factors in the 90s, S4s can sit for days sometimes depending on where they are/going.
Are those 6 S2's almost like a positive space? Only to be used by the eligible riders ( parents, spouse, etc)? Also why is RT better? Thanks again for the info. Really helpful.
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Old 05-23-2015, 12:23 PM
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On busy routes an S2 may or may not get on... for sure no S3's or S3B's and S4's get a job in the terminal.. I have seen S4's sit for two weeks..
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The worst I have seen, was ORD last year, 89 standby's marooned on a Sunday. The Co. relented and sent a Maddog to the rescue, preventing a mass sick-out Monday morning.
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I'm not disagreeing with that. There are many ways to get to your goal and that is not the end all metric by any means. All things being equal, finishing a 4 year degree in 4 years is preferred, and weight/points is given to that. However weight/points is also given to many things that would cause or correlate with taking longer than 4 years. So its simultaneously possible to lose points because of it, but in a way where you end up gaining more points. This is what he absolutely can't wrap his mind around. He's only focusing on the "points" of the timeline to a degree and nothing else and then radically over emphasizing it and then either giving career advice to people that already have their degrees (in whatever time it took them so they can't change it) or people who are still in college and many years away from getting their application scored and interviewed and by then it will have changed anyway.
So I'm just curious about something. I received a fix-it email a year and a half ago for education. I received my Bachelor's in two years of college, I had CLEP'd the first two years. I didn't think about four years as being a min, maybe I shot myself in the foot by just resubmitting with just the two years of college listed (and my elementary, junior high and high school years).
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux View Post
So I'm just curious about something. I received a fix-it email a year and a half ago for education. I received my Bachelor's in two years of college, I had CLEP'd the first two years. I didn't think about four years as being a min, maybe I shot myself in the foot by just resubmitting with just the two years of college listed (and my elementary, junior high and high school years).
Smart man. That's how I'm doing it.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver View Post
Are those 6 S2's almost like a positive space? Only to be used by the eligible riders ( parents, spouse, etc)? Also why is RT better? Thanks again for the info. Really helpful.
The S2's are not positive space. As mentioned you pay a 50 dollar per year fee to non rev travel. That covers all the passes for your family and parents. If you fly in a market with customs, immigration or tax fees those will be in addition to the one time yearly charges. The UK is the worst in that regard.
Boarding priority is by standby class. The S means standby. The number after is your class. As a employee you and your family normally ride as a S3. Parents, retirees and non dependent children are S3b's. You get 6 flying days a year where you can fly as a S2. They are informally called vacation passes. It simply moves you ahead of the hoard of S3's.
S4's are the eight passes you can give to anyone. There is a per mile charge. That cost can sometimes be the same as a discounted real ticket on domestic flights. They are more valuable on international flights. They are hard to use on peak travel routes however will work with careful planning and timing.
There is no additional charge at Delta for riding in first or business class. If there are seats in the front you will be boarded there. Domestically on any route with business travel it's unlikely you will be moved up as the FF upgrade list sucks those seats up.
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Old 05-23-2015, 03:11 PM
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If you are trying to ride on a Jumpseat pass but somebody has higher priority, do you automatically get moved to an S3 or is it a good idea to list as an S3 and for the jump?
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Old 05-23-2015, 04:08 PM
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Once you buy a RT, it is good for one year. So even if they only want a OW, you can use the unused portion for a different trip. Just pay the difference in ticket prices.
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Originally Posted by TurbineDriver View Post
Are those 6 S2's almost like a positive space?
LOL, no. All using one does is put you ahead of the S3's. However, those S3's that were ahead of you almost always also have S2's, and can change quickly to that. Its not uncommon to see 20+ people standing by for 2 seats, all 20 of which burned an S2 in a war of attrition. Sometimes people even wait til the last minute to list, to see if they want to use an S2 or S3, so they don't even show up on the standby list until almost time to board.

S2's can help in some situations sometimes, but they are nowhere remotely close to positive space.
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