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Old 02-16-2015 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LibertyPilot
Did you mean since JAN 2014? That seems to be a lot of guys in a month and a half if it's accurate.

Also, of the Civilians only how many were non 121, if you have that data?


Yes - January 2014. Thanks for pointing that out, I corrected my original post.

No data on 121 vs non 121 - the numbers were not broken out.

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Old 02-16-2015 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Since January 2014 DAL has hired 1120 Pilots.

Rounded numbers are as follows:

Civilian 400 Average Total time 7500 Average PIC 4100
Military 550 3100 2250
CIV/MIL 170 5000 3000



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Thanks for posting this. It brings more light as to how hard it really is as a civilian to get an interview. I'm just curious of the 400 civilian how many of those guys are flows or SSP? I'm betting the majority of those civilians came from that so even if it's only half that means only 200 civilians have been hired off the street. Talk about some stiff competition!!
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Old 02-16-2015 | 01:56 PM
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had probably the easiest flying job in mil aviation and it was a great degree more challenging than the corporate flying I did.
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Well, I did something that looked like a head-on tanker rejoin, offset and all, early one morning in a Global Express off SYD followed by an hour's worth of close formation. As good as any tanking in the C-5.

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Old 02-16-2015 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Flycameron
Thanks for posting this. It brings more light as to how hard it really is as a civilian to get an interview. I'm just curious of the 400 civilian how many of those guys are flows or SSP? I'm betting the majority of those civilians came from that so even if it's only half that means only 200 civilians have been hired off the street. Talk about some stiff competition!!
True, although the flows will be over soon and retirements will increase significantly. The supply of military pilots will likely only decrease as well. While I understand the angst of being on the outside wanting in, not everyone can get hired in year one of a hiring wave. The wave is massive and looks like it is here to stay though. Hang in there.
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Old 02-16-2015 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
True, although the flows will be over soon and retirements will increase significantly. The supply of military pilots will likely only decrease as well. While I understand the angst of being on the outside wanting in, not everyone can get hired in year one of a hiring wave. The wave is massive and looks like it is here to stay though. Hang in there.
Gloopy,

From me and the rest of the guys on this side of the fence. I/we can't say thanks enough for the information you post on here and also the encouragement you provide. I mean this seriously, there are others that also post some good information on here as well. but you do quite a bit yourself and it helps those guys like us trying to "see in".

Just like you mentioned we all can't get on this first year, but there are many of us who have been loyal to the Delta brand on the regional side for over a decade and hoping to be a mainline delta guy one day soon. Also, several of these 91/135 guys have shown a super high desire to be there also. This is something that I/we hope Delta gives some credit for in the future.

Thanks for all your posts and the good insight you provide!
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Old 02-16-2015 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Yes - January 2014. Thanks for pointing that out, I corrected my original post.

No data on 121 vs non 121 - the numbers were not broken out.

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Also, Scoop you to! Thanks for posting this as well. You are one of the guys I was thinking of when I posted the above information. Thanks for taking the time to provide all this information to us.

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Old 02-16-2015 | 04:20 PM
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Hoping that someone can shed some light to a rumor I heard recently. Is it true the DAL prefers applicants that have between 6000 to 7000 hours? Is having more than that a detractor to ones application that is otherwise very competitive?
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Old 02-16-2015 | 05:23 PM
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Not true at all.
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Old 02-16-2015 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by GucciBoy
You're saying that you value highly the experience of a corporate pilot and wish that their experience was given greater weight in the selection process (a perfectly valid opinion, don't get me wrong) and in the same breath wondering why military pilots are given so much preference? I had probably the easiest flying job in mil aviation and it was a great degree more challenging than the corporate flying I did.
Not trying to get into a ****ing contest over mil vs. GA civ. My point is they should be looked at on an equal footing absolutely. Corporate jobs run the gamut. The individuals and their type of flying etc..should be looked at and no need to check a 121 box. There is an enormous amount of talent in those ranks who have been flying metal safely all over the planet, while juggling many other jobs within their flight dept. The most qualified would be at the top of my list...be it 121, GA or military. No background bias.
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Old 02-16-2015 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
True, although the flows will be over soon and retirements will increase significantly. The supply of military pilots will likely only decrease as well. While I understand the angst of being on the outside wanting in, not everyone can get hired in year one of a hiring wave. The wave is massive and looks like it is here to stay though. Hang in there.
I'm hangin and hopeful to get an invite this year. I'll hang as long as it takes and it sounds like the OTS civilians hired should go way up this year. I just can't wait until they finally get to the tier II guys as I think or I hope I fall into tier II.
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