Pancake

Will working for a DCI company (without flow or SSP) hurt someone's interview chances? Logic says Delta doesn't want to decimate their feed.

Several DCI new-hires are mil pilots hoping to move their application up the stack a few notches. Could it backfire?

LandGreen2

Some of you guys are getting too wrapped around the axle about this military vs. civ thing...I don't know...maybe it is left over from "my high school is better than your high school..." But in today's airline industry this mil vs civ background thing is really mute.

The days of Delta hiring predominantly military are long gone. Today, they hire personalities...which has been proven over the past 20 years to be FAR better than focusing on where the individual got their experience. The reality of airline flying is that you have to be the dude/or gal that someone could sit next to for 1,2,3....16 hours! The HR interview only focuses on that fact. Military or civilian experience will not compensate for an arrogant, aggressive, or know-it-all personality.

Your experience gets you an interview, but that is where it stops. Your personality gets you the job. Some of the best advice I got when airlines were hiring was, "The interview STARTS as soon as you leave your DRIVEWAY!!!"

Good Luck to All!

Denny Crane

No. They send you a memory stick with all the systems on it. Day 1 equals review. Day 2 equals ESV (electronic systems validation). This is the way the ESV works: It's broken up in to different systems. You need to get at least 80% of the questions correct. If the computer sees you getting less than 80%, it will add questions on that system to try and get you up to 80%. If you fail 2 systems, you can get re-trained and take only those two on a retake. 3 separate systems failures and you retake the whole test. It's been a few months but I think that was how it worked.

I'll second the STUDY THE LOD (learning objectives document)! It's where all the questions on the ESV come from. After the ESV you start in the procedures trainer doing FMS and normal procedures like preflighting etc.

On another note, boy am I glad I got hired when I did! I don't think I'd ever make it in today's environment!

Denny

EmbraerFlyer

So oce this ESV is completed, at some point do you still do an actual oral or validation with an instructor or examiner

80ktsClamp

ESV is your oral. That's it.

EmbraerFlyer

Thanks.

Is the computer based materials compatible with both apple and windows or does it favor windows more.

sevenfiveseven

Moot is the word you are looking for but you are 100% accurate.

John Carr

For some reason, a rumor like the above seems to float around occasionally. But think about it, if it did have a shred of credibility.

In a fantasy world, sure, DAL can bypass PCL/CPZ (non-flow), XJT CRJ pilots, etc etc etc etc.

Again, in a fantasy world, DAL can hire non DCI pilots and "poach" other legacy regional feeders. Sounds like a great plan, right? Well, till UAL hires DCI pilots, AA starts hiring DCI pilots, USAir hires DCI pilots. Meanwhile AA doesn't hire non flow American Eagle/American Connection pilots, but hires UAX/DCI pilots. USAir hires only non USAir Express pilots, and on down the line. See where that logic of not wanting to decimate their regional feed starts to fail?

And how in the hell would they straighten out the regional carriers that can have pilots fly 2 or 3 different paint jobs in a single trip?

gloopy

Actually its not navigating around it, its fully abiding by it. And the contract will be honored, although it can be waived by DALPA, I don't see that happening. The company can also cancel the flows, at least at CPZ, unilaterally as well. They just have to reduce the number of their prescious DC-9-10 replacement jets at the RFP carriers and they will never do that. So the flows will be honored. All of them. If the company chooses to structure class dates so as to give at least a small chance to the massive off the street community, that's their right to do so. They may or may not choose to exercise that right however.

buzzpat

True that, plus some of the systems are only a handful of questions so if you miss a couple of questions you bust. At least on the 73.