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Old 05-20-2018 | 07:32 PM
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Latest indoc class of record, and the interview date that went with it?


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Old 05-21-2018 | 10:56 AM
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Latest confirmed indoc class? Interview date that went with it?


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Old 05-21-2018 | 03:29 PM
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Is there anyone familiar with Part 141 flight programs that could help me with this question?

So in part 141 we have what are called in-house check rides, where your check ride is broken up into stage checks or end of course evaluations. Once you complete all these checks, i.e. (Oral, Sim, Flight), you submit your 8710 for the certificate in which you are applying for and it goes in as a first time pass. Regardless if you in-completed or had to re-check for one of the items listed above.

To clarify, I failed my "in-house" oral for my initial instrument rating. However on the FAA's end it still shows as a first time pass and there is nothing on my record that states a failure...

Does Delta ask about these in house checks? Even though on my FAA record it states my check ride as a first time pass?

Thanks in advance and I apologize if this was confusing at all.
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Old 05-21-2018 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying
Is there anyone familiar with Part 141 flight programs that could help me with this question?

So in part 141 we have what are called in-house check rides, where your check ride is broken up into stage checks or end of course evaluations. Once you complete all these checks, i.e. (Oral, Sim, Flight), you submit your 8710 for the certificate in which you are applying for and it goes in as a first time pass. Regardless if you in-completed or had to re-check for one of the items listed above.

To clarify, I failed my "in-house" oral for my initial instrument rating. However on the FAA's end it still shows as a first time pass and there is nothing on my record that states a failure...

Does Delta ask about these in house checks? Even though on my FAA record it states my check ride as a first time pass?

Thanks in advance and I apologize if this was confusing at all.
You need to disclose this on your app. They basically ask if you have failed ANY kind of evaluation EVER in any sort of flight training, and in this case you have. The good news is this will in no way affect your ability to get hired, as I would venture that most applicants have some form of negative mark on their record (speeding ticket, failure, etc). Delta has hired people with FAA checkride failures, so a stage check oral ultimately is no big deal. Just be open about it on your app, and if you get the interview be prepared to honestly discuss what happened and how you learned from it.
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Old 05-22-2018 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
You need to disclose this on your app. They basically ask if you have failed ANY kind of evaluation EVER in any sort of flight training, and in this case you have. The good news is this will in no way affect your ability to get hired, as I would venture that most applicants have some form of negative mark on their record (speeding ticket, failure, etc). Delta has hired people with FAA checkride failures, so a stage check oral ultimately is no big deal. Just be open about it on your app, and if you get the interview be prepared to honestly discuss what happened and how you learned from it.
You should disclose it even if they'll never find out about it. Massive points for honesty, which they are looking hard for anyway, plus it gives you something "negative" about yourself to talk about, on your terms, with a home run ending (the honesty, learning, etc). If you sit there on a pedestal implying "you have nothing on me I'm untouchable" they will look even harder to come up with something.
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Old 05-22-2018 | 09:08 AM
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^^^^

What these guys are saying, don't even think about not disclosing it. Own it, show how you learned from it, why it made you better and land the job.
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Old 05-22-2018 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying
Is there anyone familiar with Part 141 flight programs that could help me with this question?

So in part 141 we have what are called in-house check rides, where your check ride is broken up into stage checks or end of course evaluations. Once you complete all these checks, i.e. (Oral, Sim, Flight), you submit your 8710 for the certificate in which you are applying for and it goes in as a first time pass. Regardless if you in-completed or had to re-check for one of the items listed above.

To clarify, I failed my "in-house" oral for my initial instrument rating. However on the FAA's end it still shows as a first time pass and there is nothing on my record that states a failure...

Does Delta ask about these in house checks? Even though on my FAA record it states my check ride as a first time pass?

Thanks in advance and I apologize if this was confusing at all.

I believe the question reads “have you ever failed a check ride, or any portion of flight training?”. Yes, you need to disclose it.
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Old 05-22-2018 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
You should disclose it even if they'll never find out about it. Massive points for honesty, which they are looking hard for anyway, plus it gives you something "negative" about yourself to talk about, on your terms, with a home run ending (the honesty, learning, etc). If you sit there on a pedestal implying "you have nothing on me I'm untouchable" they will look even harder to come up with something.
Don’t you get points taken away from your app if you state you failed anything regarding flight training? If true, that could pontentially delay an interview invite.
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Old 05-22-2018 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Taco
Don’t you get points taken away from your app if you state you failed anything regarding flight training? If true, that could pontentially delay an interview invite.
nope. There is no such thing as a "negative" point on an app
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Old 05-22-2018 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Taco
Don’t you get points taken away from your app if you state you failed anything regarding flight training? If true, that could pontentially delay an interview invite.
If it turns out a person failed to disclose a failure that they later find out about, that interview delay really won’t matter because they will be invited to turn their badge in and leave. Trying to correct omissions during the panel doesn’t really work very well.
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