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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:00 PM
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Under New Hire Flight Training in the Delta Instructor Guide it says under Day 1, it is going to have the instructor check certificates.

It says notify the Fleet Captain if they do not have
– Current Airman Certificate. (minimum of commercial pilot with no center line thrust restriction and if you made it that far without anyone noticing, damn)
– An FCC Radiotelephone Operator Permit
– A First Class FAA Medical Certificate
– Verification of citizenship
– A current passport
And then the FOM says:
Medical Certificates
All Delta pilots are required to have a First Class Medical.
Captains and first officers (in categories utilizing relief pilots):
• age 40-60 - every 6 months,
• under 40 - every 12 months (1 year).

Domestic first officers ONLY (under age 60):
• every 12 months (1 year).

Any pilot OVER age 60 (any position or aircraft):
• every 6 months.
To me if you're in month 15 of your first class medical and are going to wait until before OE to get a first, then it's not a first class medical. It's a second class. And my guess is, or if I was the instructor, I'd have to stop and call and ask the fleet captain or someone for assistance and my bet would be they wouldn't be happy. Great day 1 experience.

Just get a first class medical and be done with it.

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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by like2fly2
This is what is confusing me....it seems like four or so years ago they changed 61.23(d) to allow you to exercise first class privileges for 12 months for those under the age of 40. Does that extend the duration of the first class medical, or just extend the privileges? It seems that there are several interpretations here. I know at my current airline, if you are under 40, it's good for 12 months, end of story, regardless of type rides, ratings, etc.
Originally Posted by ManFlex
Under 40, first class medical is valid for 12 mos.

I don't recall any FAR even requiring a medical certificate for a type ride, but maybe it's buried somewhere in FAR 121?
I can't believe what I'm reading… If Delta asks you to do something, do it. If you want to argue FARs with them over it, you'll lose - EVERY time. It's like the company FOM. It's at least as restrictive as the FARs. If you argue with the company because the FOM is more restrictive than the FARs, you'll lose that battle too.
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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NormalAbnormal
I can't believe what I'm reading… If Delta asks you to do something, do it. If you want to argue FARs with them over it, you'll lose - EVERY time. It's like the company FOM. It's at least as restrictive as the FARs. If you argue with the company because the FOM is more restrictive than the FARs, you'll lose that battle too.
I don't work for Delta. Never will. I was just curious. Sorry for asking!
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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Under 40, first class medical is valid for 12 mos.

I don't recall any FAR even requiring a medical certificate for a type ride, but maybe it's buried somewhere in FAR 121?
It's also good for over 40 if you are just an FO:

Domestic first officers ONLY (under age 60):
• every 12 months (1 year).
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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NormalAbnormal
I can't believe what I'm reading… If Delta asks you to do something, do it. If you want to argue FARs with them over it, you'll lose - EVERY time. It's like the company FOM. It's at least as restrictive as the FARs. If you argue with the company because the FOM is more restrictive than the FARs, you'll lose that battle too.
Jeesh guys, the purpose wasn't to argue FARs with anyone. It was to verify that Delta does in fact consider the 1st class medical to last for 12 months for those who are under the age of 40. As I mentioned previously, the Hiring News thread hints otherwise and I wanted to make sure I was prepared when heading to class with an 8 month old 1st class medical. Thanks ftb for posting that excerpt.
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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:32 PM
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Manflex you are correct in that you do not have to have a medical to get a type rating (in a simulator) per the FARs.

Delta requires it though.
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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Sleep is just an attitude.
I thought it was a posture?

Reclined!

As in, "I'll be checking my eyelids for holes, don't let me wake up and catch you sleeping!"
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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Manflex you are correct in that you do not have to have a medical to get a type rating (in a simulator) per the FARs.

Delta requires it though.
Thanks for the answer. I'm just an airline nerd, that's why I ask. And I agree, if Delta says have a First Class, get one!
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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by like2fly2
Jeesh guys, the purpose wasn't to argue FARs with anyone. It was to verify that Delta does in fact consider the 1st class medical to last for 12 months for those who are under the age of 40. As I mentioned previously, the Hiring News thread hints otherwise and I wanted to make sure I was prepared when heading to class with an 8 month old 1st class medical. Thanks ftb for posting that excerpt.
Are you saying we need to take the APCF posse over to the New Hire thread?

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Old 03-17-2014 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Are you saying we need to take the APCF posse over to the New Hire thread?

I've flown with that dude...
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