That's huge.

I wonder if that's going to drive creative scheduling, though, and make trips less commutable. For sure, I can see that changing some folks' bidding strategies. If you were senior enough to bid two sets of those linked back-to-back, then another one by itself, you could get an 82hr line with two 5-day blocks, one 3-day block, all commutable together, and 17-18 days home.

At the least, it dis-incentivizes multiple red-eyes (if those are even permissible at DAL).

Meanwhile there are 6 similar trips to this 10-hour credit 3-day in June's open time at JetBlue (and about 5 more that pay sub-11 hrs):

SU BOS-SDQ 2225-0223 (with 1+hr from landing to the hotel)
TU SDQ-BOS 0319-0719

B6 pilots: Read this stuff and bring it to the negotiating table. This is why junior line holders see 12 days off with 85 hours, and junior reserves fly just shy of guarantee every month, and why you need a CBA. You've got a super interim MEC, and lots of people who will be great in the permanent MEC/LECs. Go fix this!

 

There will however more then likely be far fewer of them after Carmen is programmed with the new rule. The legs will be built into longer trips.

 

PBS is required to get all the lines in a category to average within an hour of the published ALV. So regardless of whether that's high or low, if somebody is in the top end of the 15-hour window, somebody will be in the low end.

Might as well be you.

 

Which would lead me to ask why the heck hasn't Carmen been building them into the longer trips before?

 

Because the economic penalty was not big enough to override other issues. I had a schedule volunteer also explain NY was somewhat unique because of high transport and layover costs. It also has a higher average stage length then any other base. This makes it easy to have plenty of long legs to deliver a min credit solution.

 

I guessing that, previously, there as no incentive too. It didn't cost the company much but now it will...

Denny

 

Thats how I read it too. What was the carve out they eliminated versus the carve out that was added? That confuses me.

 

There were two carve outs. One for the beginning of a trip. If you left between 10pm and midnight, that did not count as a day and the second carve out was that if you arrived home on your last leg in between midnight and 2am, that did not count as a day either. The first carve out has been eliminated and the second one retained.

Everyone has to realize that ADG is calculated for the entire trip. It is an average for the trip length not a per day credit.

In other words, if I'm on a 3 day trip and fly 7 hours on the first day, 0 on the second and 7 on the third, I'm not going to get paid 19:15, I'm going to get paid 15:45.

Denny

 

Hmmmm....I'm somewhat concerned about that, because I'm in the 6/2 class as well and never got such email (checked spam folder too). Would you mind PM'ing me the appropriate email address so I at least have a shot at getting something in?

Thanks!

 

It was supposed to go to the email you provided in Airline Apps, so if you changed it or deleted your account, that might be why.