DAL Poolie Info
06-06-2014, 10:08 AM
#2281
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: 73N FO
Posts: 118
That is the old spreadsheet. Here is the link to the new one.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ab0pulc9n...20May%2014.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ab0pulc9n...20May%2014.JPG
06-06-2014, 11:00 AM
#2282
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: Permanently scarred
Posts: 1,707
Originally Posted by badgerned
That is the old spreadsheet. Here is the link to the new one.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ab0pulc9n...20May%2014.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ab0pulc9n...20May%2014.JPG
06-07-2014, 06:05 AM
#2285
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: Utah Chapter
Posts: 391
Counting the Costs
Folks waiting for class, here are some numbers for which to be prepared. Take with a grain of salt based on my earlier attempts at math in public.
New-hire salary through IOE: $3750/mo
Uniform: ~$500-550
- 3 different vendors ranging from ~$375-425 for a newhire package. One ($407) offers 5 shirts, the other 2 in the deal. I bought from Crew Outfitters and with an upgrade to their coolmax collar on the shirts, 3 extra so I wouldn't scare anyone out of the cockpit on day 5 of a trip, a new belt, and a zipper vs clip-on tie, it cost about $500 shipped home (no tax).
- Add in another $45 for hat pin, wings, and nametags
- $50-60 Navy SDB jacket you will get altered
- I already had plain black leather shoes
Lodging during sims:
- Hotels: ~$1600-$1700 (21 nights at $70-$75 + tax). If you've got a car, you can drop that by going a bit further away. There are a couple places a bit cheaper. Best rate with Breakfast in walking distance seems to be Fairfield Inn ($69ish + tax). Most have doubles available, so split it with your sim partner and you can cut this in half.
- Crash pad: $300-500 or more. They're booked pretty solid, but there are some available. I found one in walking distance for me and my sim partner.
Food and drink obviously extra. You're pilots... you'll find the discounts.
Don't buy a laptop just for training. Surface is on the way. If you have a Mac, they'll give you a full-up version of Windoze 7.
I'm Not complaining AT ALL - just thought some of you in the pool might want a good idea of how financially prepared you'll need to be.
As a comparison, JetBlue pays for the hotel all the way through initial training and provides uniforms (you can talk to a JB pilot about how that's going). However, new-hire pay is $1000/mo less. I figure it comes out about even, and then after training obviously two paths diverge into the woods.
New-hire salary through IOE: $3750/mo
Uniform: ~$500-550
- 3 different vendors ranging from ~$375-425 for a newhire package. One ($407) offers 5 shirts, the other 2 in the deal. I bought from Crew Outfitters and with an upgrade to their coolmax collar on the shirts, 3 extra so I wouldn't scare anyone out of the cockpit on day 5 of a trip, a new belt, and a zipper vs clip-on tie, it cost about $500 shipped home (no tax).
- Add in another $45 for hat pin, wings, and nametags
- $50-60 Navy SDB jacket you will get altered
- I already had plain black leather shoes
Lodging during sims:
- Hotels: ~$1600-$1700 (21 nights at $70-$75 + tax). If you've got a car, you can drop that by going a bit further away. There are a couple places a bit cheaper. Best rate with Breakfast in walking distance seems to be Fairfield Inn ($69ish + tax). Most have doubles available, so split it with your sim partner and you can cut this in half.
- Crash pad: $300-500 or more. They're booked pretty solid, but there are some available. I found one in walking distance for me and my sim partner.
Food and drink obviously extra. You're pilots... you'll find the discounts.
Don't buy a laptop just for training. Surface is on the way. If you have a Mac, they'll give you a full-up version of Windoze 7.
I'm Not complaining AT ALL - just thought some of you in the pool might want a good idea of how financially prepared you'll need to be.
As a comparison, JetBlue pays for the hotel all the way through initial training and provides uniforms (you can talk to a JB pilot about how that's going). However, new-hire pay is $1000/mo less. I figure it comes out about even, and then after training obviously two paths diverge into the woods.
06-07-2014, 06:33 AM
#2286
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,922
Originally Posted by Flying Elvis
Folks waiting for class, here are some numbers for which to be prepared. Take with a grain of salt based on my earlier attempts at math in public.
New-hire salary through IOE: $3750/mo
Uniform: ~$500-550
- 3 different vendors ranging from ~$375-425 for a newhire package. One ($407) offers 5 shirts, the other 2 in the deal. I bought from Crew Outfitters and with an upgrade to their coolmax collar on the shirts, 3 extra so I wouldn't scare anyone out of the cockpit on day 5 of a trip, a new belt, and a zipper vs clip-on tie, it cost about $500 shipped home (no tax).
- Add in another $45 for hat pin, wings, and nametags
- $50-60 Navy SDB jacket you will get altered
- I already had plain black leather shoes
Lodging during sims:
- Hotels: ~$1600-$1700 (21 nights at $70-$75 + tax). If you've got a car, you can drop that by going a bit further away. There are a couple places a bit cheaper. Best rate with Breakfast in walking distance seems to be Fairfield Inn ($69ish + tax). Most have doubles available, so split it with your sim partner and you can cut this in half.
- Crash pad: $300-500 or more. They're booked pretty solid, but there are some available. I found one in walking distance for me and my sim partner.
Food and drink obviously extra. You're pilots... you'll find the discounts.
Don't buy a laptop just for training. Surface is on the way. If you have a Mac, they'll give you a full-up version of Windoze 7.
I'm Not complaining AT ALL - just thought some of you in the pool might want a good idea of how financially prepared you'll need to be.
As a comparison, JetBlue pays for the hotel all the way through initial training and provides uniforms (you can talk to a JB pilot about how that's going). However, new-hire pay is $1000/mo less. I figure it comes out about even, and then after training obviously two paths diverge into the woods.
New-hire salary through IOE: $3750/mo
Uniform: ~$500-550
- 3 different vendors ranging from ~$375-425 for a newhire package. One ($407) offers 5 shirts, the other 2 in the deal. I bought from Crew Outfitters and with an upgrade to their coolmax collar on the shirts, 3 extra so I wouldn't scare anyone out of the cockpit on day 5 of a trip, a new belt, and a zipper vs clip-on tie, it cost about $500 shipped home (no tax).
- Add in another $45 for hat pin, wings, and nametags
- $50-60 Navy SDB jacket you will get altered
- I already had plain black leather shoes
Lodging during sims:
- Hotels: ~$1600-$1700 (21 nights at $70-$75 + tax). If you've got a car, you can drop that by going a bit further away. There are a couple places a bit cheaper. Best rate with Breakfast in walking distance seems to be Fairfield Inn ($69ish + tax). Most have doubles available, so split it with your sim partner and you can cut this in half.
- Crash pad: $300-500 or more. They're booked pretty solid, but there are some available. I found one in walking distance for me and my sim partner.
Food and drink obviously extra. You're pilots... you'll find the discounts.
Don't buy a laptop just for training. Surface is on the way. If you have a Mac, they'll give you a full-up version of Windoze 7.
I'm Not complaining AT ALL - just thought some of you in the pool might want a good idea of how financially prepared you'll need to be.
As a comparison, JetBlue pays for the hotel all the way through initial training and provides uniforms (you can talk to a JB pilot about how that's going). However, new-hire pay is $1000/mo less. I figure it comes out about even, and then after training obviously two paths diverge into the woods.
06-07-2014, 06:49 AM
#2287
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: 1st Class for breafast, lunch, dinner
Posts: 44
The pool should be pretty close to empty by now. People who we're waiting for July - November classes have already been informed of earlier class dates including the May 19 to June 16 classes.
Delta originally wanted roughly 350-450 pilots for year of 2014. Now it has increased to roughly 800-900.
Reportedly for the next two months it's supposed to be 100 hires. Beginning in August 72 hires per month for the remaining of the year.
The goal is to send pilots straight to training without a pool. Also after the offer on the spot the push is for 2-3 weeks before class starts.
Some of the information may be off but it came from a good source.
Delta originally wanted roughly 350-450 pilots for year of 2014. Now it has increased to roughly 800-900.
Reportedly for the next two months it's supposed to be 100 hires. Beginning in August 72 hires per month for the remaining of the year.
The goal is to send pilots straight to training without a pool. Also after the offer on the spot the push is for 2-3 weeks before class starts.
Some of the information may be off but it came from a good source.
06-07-2014, 07:30 AM
#2288
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 938
Originally Posted by Flying Elvis
Folks waiting for class, here are some numbers for which to be prepared. Take with a grain of salt based on my earlier attempts at math in public.
New-hire salary through IOE: $3750/mo
Uniform: ~$500-550
- 3 different vendors ranging from ~$375-425 for a newhire package. One ($407) offers 5 shirts, the other 2 in the deal. I bought from Crew Outfitters and with an upgrade to their coolmax collar on the shirts, 3 extra so I wouldn't scare anyone out of the cockpit on day 5 of a trip, a new belt, and a zipper vs clip-on tie, it cost about $500 shipped home (no tax).
- Add in another $45 for hat pin, wings, and nametags
- $50-60 Navy SDB jacket you will get altered
- I already had plain black leather shoes
Lodging during sims:
- Hotels: ~$1600-$1700 (21 nights at $70-$75 + tax). If you've got a car, you can drop that by going a bit further away. There are a couple places a bit cheaper. Best rate with Breakfast in walking distance seems to be Fairfield Inn ($69ish + tax). Most have doubles available, so split it with your sim partner and you can cut this in half.
- Crash pad: $300-500 or more. They're booked pretty solid, but there are some available. I found one in walking distance for me and my sim partner.
Food and drink obviously extra. You're pilots... you'll find the discounts.
Don't buy a laptop just for training. Surface is on the way. If you have a Mac, they'll give you a full-up version of Windoze 7.
I'm Not complaining AT ALL - just thought some of you in the pool might want a good idea of how financially prepared you'll need to be.
As a comparison, JetBlue pays for the hotel all the way through initial training and provides uniforms (you can talk to a JB pilot about how that's going). However, new-hire pay is $1000/mo less. I figure it comes out about even, and then after training obviously two paths diverge into the woods.
New-hire salary through IOE: $3750/mo
Uniform: ~$500-550
- 3 different vendors ranging from ~$375-425 for a newhire package. One ($407) offers 5 shirts, the other 2 in the deal. I bought from Crew Outfitters and with an upgrade to their coolmax collar on the shirts, 3 extra so I wouldn't scare anyone out of the cockpit on day 5 of a trip, a new belt, and a zipper vs clip-on tie, it cost about $500 shipped home (no tax).
- Add in another $45 for hat pin, wings, and nametags
- $50-60 Navy SDB jacket you will get altered
- I already had plain black leather shoes
Lodging during sims:
- Hotels: ~$1600-$1700 (21 nights at $70-$75 + tax). If you've got a car, you can drop that by going a bit further away. There are a couple places a bit cheaper. Best rate with Breakfast in walking distance seems to be Fairfield Inn ($69ish + tax). Most have doubles available, so split it with your sim partner and you can cut this in half.
- Crash pad: $300-500 or more. They're booked pretty solid, but there are some available. I found one in walking distance for me and my sim partner.
Food and drink obviously extra. You're pilots... you'll find the discounts.
Don't buy a laptop just for training. Surface is on the way. If you have a Mac, they'll give you a full-up version of Windoze 7.
I'm Not complaining AT ALL - just thought some of you in the pool might want a good idea of how financially prepared you'll need to be.
As a comparison, JetBlue pays for the hotel all the way through initial training and provides uniforms (you can talk to a JB pilot about how that's going). However, new-hire pay is $1000/mo less. I figure it comes out about even, and then after training obviously two paths diverge into the woods.
06-07-2014, 07:31 AM
#2289
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: 7ERA
Posts: 938
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
This post disgusts me. We should take better care of our new hires. Most of our pilots are not in their 20's. Most of them have mortgages and families. This would be a huge hardship on me if I were starting today.
06-07-2014, 08:28 AM
#2290
The Brown Dot +1
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: 777B
Posts: 7,775
Originally Posted by 14Kayr
The pool should be pretty close to empty by now. People who we're waiting for July - November classes have already been informed of earlier class dates including the May 19 to June 16 classes.
Delta originally wanted roughly 350-450 pilots for year of 2014. Now it has increased to roughly 800-900.
Reportedly for the next two months it's supposed to be 100 hires. Beginning in August 72 hires per month for the remaining of the year.
The goal is to send pilots straight to training without a pool. Also after the offer on the spot the push is for 2-3 weeks before class starts.
Some of the information may be off but it came from a good source.
Delta originally wanted roughly 350-450 pilots for year of 2014. Now it has increased to roughly 800-900.
Reportedly for the next two months it's supposed to be 100 hires. Beginning in August 72 hires per month for the remaining of the year.
The goal is to send pilots straight to training without a pool. Also after the offer on the spot the push is for 2-3 weeks before class starts.
Some of the information may be off but it came from a good source.
So, good source or not, I think your post is on the money. If it needs to be said, this is incredibly good news for guys in the pool or already hired - seniority is everything.
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