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01-03-2014 | 09:05 AM
#261
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From: Scratching my head in the right seat of a Douglas product
Well, here is a quote from the contract:
A pilot who is awarded an AE or VD for which qualification training is required will incur a 24-month category freeze, and an entry level pilot will incur a 12-month category freeze.
In all the AE/VD awards I'm aware of, your seat lock starts when you are awarded the position. I don't know how you would get two quick shots at any aircraft......you would be seat locked once awarded the first one. Am I missing something?
Denny
It is in LOA #9 for you guys that it states we can participate in an AE while being held back. LOA.9.13.e. The 1 year seat lock came after this, but I would think the Flow LOA would still pertain to dealing with the likes of us.
Drama
01-03-2014 | 09:31 AM
#262
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This probably deserves a call to ALPA and/or the Company to find out for sure.
Denny
01-03-2014 | 11:24 AM
#263
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Drama
01-03-2014 | 12:47 PM
#264
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From: 757/767
Here is the definition of "Category Freeze":
Category freeze” means a period of time
a. that is determined under Section 22 G.,
b. that commences on the date of a pilot’s award of an AE or VD for which qualification training is required or on an entry level pilot’s date of employment with the Company as a pilot, and
c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training is required.
Hope this helps.
Denny
Category freeze” means a period of time
a. that is determined under Section 22 G.,
b. that commences on the date of a pilot’s award of an AE or VD for which qualification training is required or on an entry level pilot’s date of employment with the Company as a pilot, and
c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training is required.
Hope this helps.
Denny
01-03-2014 | 01:00 PM
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Where do you want to be based?
01-03-2014 | 01:52 PM
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The 'plug" for MSP 88B is 286 numbers from the bottom of the seniority list. (A 2008 hire.) So, assuming all stays relatively standard, you would need approx. 300 pilots below you, on the seniority list, to hold MSP.
GJ
GJ
01-03-2014 | 02:16 PM
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If it is anything like LAX, SLC or SEA there will be very little movement with out growth in that specific base. For example as of today there are 18 guys senior to a 9500 seniority number with the MSP M88 B as there #1 choice on the next AE. I can't see how many have it as there number one choice between 9500 and 11593 but I would imagine it is at least that many more. So with that said there will have to be a fair amount of movement or growth just to let the 30-40 in that already are on property.
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