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Old 01-24-2014 | 06:55 AM
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Could also be that current and past instructors quit. Tired of commuting to ATL without the overrides, hotels and per diem they used to get as SLIs. Not to be a Debbie Downer, but moving the workforce to ATL could be part of this.
No kidding.

On the upside you make the highest payrate that you could hold at any base.

On the downside you have to commute to ATL, spend 17 nights per month in a crashpad with no perdiem. And you have to actually work instead of "relax" for 5 hours up at cruise.

For commuters it's not exactly a good deal. For local guys it's the bee's knees.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 08:03 AM
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... anyone know the aircraft/base assignments?

(I thought the 13 Jan guys knew by now)
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Old 01-24-2014 | 10:43 AM
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Interviews from this week are told the number is still 300 new hires in 2014 with the "possibility of more". Sounds like the approval still has not come down the pipeline. Until it does (and I believe that it will based on the rate of interviews) we can count on:

Compass has 530 pilots currently on the list. 25% can flow annually with 303 eligible for the flow. The 25% is calculated on a monthly basis. If Compass will/can keep their list at 530 that means 132.5 will flow in 2014.

Mesaba does 9 per month which means 108 pilots will flow in 2014. (I am not sure on the total eligible but I believe it is in the 130's).

That combined total is 240.5 +/- the flex Compass feels in their list leaving only 60 slots for off the streets AND Endeavor SSP in 2014.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
No kidding.

On the upside you make the highest payrate that you could hold at any base.

On the downside you have to commute to ATL, spend 17 nights per month in a crashpad with no perdiem. And you have to actually work instead of "relax" for 5 hours up at cruise.

For commuters it's not exactly a good deal. For local guys it's the bee's knees.
Do you know if the pay rate adjusts if the SLI can hold CA during the 3-5 years as a SLI. For ex. SLI starts out and can hold 7ERB, then 2 years later can hold 717A…does his/her pay adjust upward or does it only go to the highest 777/747B category?
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Old 01-24-2014 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
No kidding.

On the upside you make the highest payrate that you could hold at any base.

On the downside you have to commute to ATL, spend 17 nights per month in a crashpad with no perdiem. And you have to actually work instead of "relax" for 5 hours up at cruise.

For commuters it's not exactly a good deal. For local guys it's the bee's knees.
You also have to pay GA income taxes.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen2
Do you know if the pay rate adjusts if the SLI can hold CA during the 3-5 years as a SLI. For ex. SLI starts out and can hold 7ERB, then 2 years later can hold 717A…does his/her pay adjust upward or does it only go to the highest 777/747B category?
From reading the PWA C13, I believe it does, but don't quote me. It works the other way, too. A buddy of mine went from 765B pay to 7ERB pay simply because of someone else's displacement. This was several years ago.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DontRelaxScope
Interviews from this week are told the number is still 300 new hires in 2014 with the "possibility of more". Sounds like the approval still has not come down the pipeline. Until it does (and I believe that it will based on the rate of interviews) we can count on:

Compass has 530 pilots currently on the list. 25% can flow annually with 303 eligible for the flow. The 25% is calculated on a monthly basis. If Compass will/can keep their list at 530 that means 132.5 will flow in 2014.

Mesaba does 9 per month which means 108 pilots will flow in 2014. (I am not sure on the total eligible but I believe it is in the 130's).

That combined total is 240.5 +/- the flex Compass feels in their list leaving only 60 slots for off the streets AND Endeavor SSP in 2014.

Are those the totals eligible for interview, or total who have cleared that hurdle and have been hired? Or are those numbers relatively equal with the interviews being a relative formality?
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Old 01-24-2014 | 02:16 PM
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Mesaba flows are around 70. So total flows with compass and Mesaba will be roughly 200
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Old 01-24-2014 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Mesaba flows are around 70. So total flows with compass and Mesaba will be roughly 200
Still doesn't come close to justifying the amount of interviews, especially considering that almost 150 (I think) of the "hires" were furlough bypass returns. So essentially 200 + bypassers= more than 300 without a single OTS (except maybe for the 2-3 months CPZ is holding back). Its either a fake good news sales job (for what reason I don't know) or its about to be a huge "under promise/over deliver" event.
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Old 01-24-2014 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BlindBentBingo
Are those the totals eligible for interview, or total who have cleared that hurdle and have been hired? Or are those numbers relatively equal with the interviews being a relative formality?
Mesaba and Compass "flows" do not have to interview.


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Mesaba flows are around 70. So total flows with compass and Mesaba will be roughly 200
Are you sure on this? I was told "130ish" when the hiring all started.
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