Agreed. Can anyone post up info on the typical MadDog trips out of ATL and NYC for a junior guy....just the trips please. We all know it's "old school" technology - and that's putting it lightly.

 

737 or 320 if given chance? Eventually I want MSP so 320 is logical. However, MSP 320 I imagine is a long ways away so I'll be commuting for awhile anyway. Do I bid the 737 since that's what I am currently on and that may help training and oe go a bit smoother? Would hope for Dtw as it is closest commute. Looking at the projected numbers Dtw will grow from 151 to 167 320 FOs, while 737 is 105 to 110. Nyc 320 is 76 to 84 while 737 stays at 163. MSP 320 goes from 268 to 303. So it appears the 320 is growing while the 737 is stagnant (I didn't look at any other bases). These numbers are what is current vs their August projection. Pay is pretty much a wash but reserve guarantee looks to about average 5 more a month on 320. The lure of a bigger and more comfortable/quiet cockpit of 320 is enticing, but so is the familiarity of 737.

Basically just talking out loud here.

 

I wouldn't worry about staying on the 737 for ease of training. The training on all the fleets is good. If you have a good attitude you will make it through.

The future is hard to predict as far as what aircraft will get you to MSP the soonest. The commute to DTW from MSP may be tougher than NYC due to the number of commuters. Someone else will have a more accurate assessment on that than I do though.

If it is going to take a year+ to hold MSP in any equipment I would seriously consider the 717. That category is projected to grow and you will gain seniority fast. There is almost unlimited opportunity for greens slips right now. If you want to get to DTW in the interim, I think it's about a 2-3 month wait once you hit the line.

 

The 737 is the furthest thing from Stagnant. Most people are getting based where they want on the first AE ( many holding other bases but havent been converted yet) and alot of the new hires are holding lines in NYC. It will only increase as we get closer to summer. The 320 is the most senior airplane in MSP too. MSP- DTW is a very hard commute, one of the hardest in the system. I agree the 717 is a money maker right now.

 

Why does their projection for August staffing not show much increase from now like the 320?

 

"Furthest thing from stagnant" is a bit of a stretch, IMO. It all depends on which base you're talking about. I'm ATL 73N B and have been at about 80% since November and am forecast to be in the same spot this coming August. All the guys hired before me in 2014 seem to be bailing off the 88 and 717 onto the 737 and ER. In my case, the 73N is, in fact, a stagnant category. I'm still able to hold a decent line and I can sit LC reserve at home if I ever wanted to bid reserve so life's still pretty good.

 

I meant there's more movement to other bases. The category may not grow but lately more 73 pilots have been moving around the system. Last I looked if a base had a 73 and a 320 base the 320 was Sr

 

You have no idea what stagnation is....00 hire.

 

Bro, I'll give you a huge "Amen!" to that. And I'm really looking forward to that last part, too.

 

Based solely on this one post, it seems you're implying I was complaining about the stagnation. I said I still have it pretty good. I referencing current movement.