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05-18-2016 | 06:51 PM
#7561
ATL 717B
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: C-130J AC / B717 FO
Trying to decide between the 717 and the 320 in NYC (assuming I have the choice in indoc).
What are the opinions on differences in how fast seniority and QOL would move on each aircraft? Also at least right now it seems like a new guy could make a lot more money on the 717 due to inevitable GS trips.
Pros and cons:
I was looking at the bid package for both and I saw a lot of 4 leg days on the 717 vs a lot more nice 2 leg days on the 320.
It sounds like you wouldn't be on reserves at all on the 717 (unless doing rolling thunder) and on the 320 it would be at least a couple of months if not many months. I would expect reserves on all the weekends and holidays on the 320 for a while but I am guessing that coverage is better and perhaps you don't get called ALL the time? 717 it sounds like you get seniority fast enough that you control your schedule for the most part.
Layovers on the 320 seem to be consistently large cities vs a lot of small ones on the 717
Comfort of plane: 717 sounds nice but everyone say that 320 is great (quiet L, spacious, nice tray table for food...)
What are the opinions on differences in how fast seniority and QOL would move on each aircraft? Also at least right now it seems like a new guy could make a lot more money on the 717 due to inevitable GS trips.
Pros and cons:
I was looking at the bid package for both and I saw a lot of 4 leg days on the 717 vs a lot more nice 2 leg days on the 320.
It sounds like you wouldn't be on reserves at all on the 717 (unless doing rolling thunder) and on the 320 it would be at least a couple of months if not many months. I would expect reserves on all the weekends and holidays on the 320 for a while but I am guessing that coverage is better and perhaps you don't get called ALL the time? 717 it sounds like you get seniority fast enough that you control your schedule for the most part.
Layovers on the 320 seem to be consistently large cities vs a lot of small ones on the 717
Comfort of plane: 717 sounds nice but everyone say that 320 is great (quiet L, spacious, nice tray table for food...)
05-19-2016 | 04:43 AM
#7563
On Reserve
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 92
Likes: 7
From: 7ER A
You're going to move up a lot faster on the 717, particularly if you stick around after your initial seat lock expires. There are more commutable trips on the 320. Assuming you don't care about hardware, which of those variables are more important to you?
05-20-2016 | 05:47 AM
#7564
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,605
Likes: 12
From: A320 Left seat
Trying to decide between the 717 and the 320 in NYC (assuming I have the choice in indoc).
What are the opinions on differences in how fast seniority and QOL would move on each aircraft? Also at least right now it seems like a new guy could make a lot more money on the 717 due to inevitable GS trips.
Pros and cons:
I was looking at the bid package for both and I saw a lot of 4 leg days on the 717 vs a lot more nice 2 leg days on the 320.
It sounds like you wouldn't be on reserves at all on the 717 (unless doing rolling thunder) and on the 320 it would be at least a couple of months if not many months. I would expect reserves on all the weekends and holidays on the 320 for a while but I am guessing that coverage is better and perhaps you don't get called ALL the time? 717 it sounds like you get seniority fast enough that you control your schedule for the most part.
Layovers on the 320 seem to be consistently large cities vs a lot of small ones on the 717
Comfort of plane: 717 sounds nice but everyone say that 320 is great (quiet L, spacious, nice tray table for food...)
What are the opinions on differences in how fast seniority and QOL would move on each aircraft? Also at least right now it seems like a new guy could make a lot more money on the 717 due to inevitable GS trips.
Pros and cons:
I was looking at the bid package for both and I saw a lot of 4 leg days on the 717 vs a lot more nice 2 leg days on the 320.
It sounds like you wouldn't be on reserves at all on the 717 (unless doing rolling thunder) and on the 320 it would be at least a couple of months if not many months. I would expect reserves on all the weekends and holidays on the 320 for a while but I am guessing that coverage is better and perhaps you don't get called ALL the time? 717 it sounds like you get seniority fast enough that you control your schedule for the most part.
Layovers on the 320 seem to be consistently large cities vs a lot of small ones on the 717
Comfort of plane: 717 sounds nice but everyone say that 320 is great (quiet L, spacious, nice tray table for food...)
The 717 deliveries are almost complete. We have 82 A321's coming over the next 3-4 years with only 4 sims. I have a sneaky feeling, Delta's planning being what it is, that the A320 fleet is going to be quite lucrative in the near future, and movement is going to be fast and furious. The 717 will be staffed adequately within the next year or so, my opinion only, and the company is going to be playing catch-up on the 320 for the foreseeable future.
Also, if you're going to be commuting, the A320 trips over the past 6 months have been way, way more commuter friendly.
I've been watching the bid packages over the past 6 months on the 717 and 320 in NYC, trying to stategerize a Captain bid, and as a commuter, the A320 was the only answer for me.
05-20-2016 | 06:34 AM
#7565
Line Holder
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
I just received an invitation to interview the other day. Next interview date is late July and I'm beyond ecstatic to say the least. I've been lurking here for a while and I'm looking for the latest interview prep info. Thanks!
05-20-2016 | 06:37 AM
#7566
Bus Driver
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 278
Likes: 0
320 manning is already a mess in Atl, and we've only just started deliveries. But I'd caution the Poolies... One man's "lucrative category" is another man's "I can't get any days off I want to spend with my family/kids, I can't move anything because the whole month is reserve capped, I can't get commutable trips, I'm flying my ass off for straight pay while the senior guys are rolling in Green."
05-20-2016 | 06:48 AM
#7567
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 200
Likes: 12
The 717 deliveries are almost complete. We have 82 A321's coming over the next 3-4 years with only 4 sims. I have a sneaky feeling, Delta's planning being what it is, that the A320 fleet is going to be quite lucrative in the near future, and movement is going to be fast and furious. The 717 will be staffed adequately within the next year or so, my opinion only, and the company is going to be playing catch-up on the 320 for the foreseeable future.
Also, if you're going to be commuting, the A320 trips over the past 6 months have been way, way more commuter friendly.
I've been watching the bid packages over the past 6 months on the 717 and 320 in NYC, trying to stategerize a Captain bid, and as a commuter, the A320 was the only answer for me.
Also, if you're going to be commuting, the A320 trips over the past 6 months have been way, way more commuter friendly.
I've been watching the bid packages over the past 6 months on the 717 and 320 in NYC, trying to stategerize a Captain bid, and as a commuter, the A320 was the only answer for me.
05-20-2016 | 07:38 AM
#7568
Bus Driver
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 278
Likes: 0
Yes. Same as the Mad Dog. We're not delivering any 88s, but it's the fastest route to seniority. I've DROPPED 8% on the Atl 320 in the last 9 months (Sep14 hire). Now, the last AEs have returned the upward movement, but it's a very trendy plane right now. With Airbus deliveries across the entire fleet spectrum (321/330/350), there is a big move to the Bus at all seniority levels. In my short time here, I've seen the "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going" culture change dramatically. DELTA--"Don't Ever Leave The Airbus" is taking hold.
Last edited by BlaneO; 05-20-2016 at 07:53 AM.
05-20-2016 | 08:09 AM
#7569
Line Holder
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 200
Likes: 12
Yes. Same as the Mad Dog. We're not delivering any 88s, but it's the fastest route to seniority. I've DROPPED 8% on the Atl 320 in the last 9 months (Sep14 hire). Now, the last AEs have returned the upward movement, but it's a very trendy plane right now. With Airbus deliveries across the entire fleet spectrum (321/330/350), there is a big move to the Bus at all seniority levels. In my short time here, I've seen the "If it's not Boeing, I'm not going" culture change dramatically. DELTA--"Don't Ever Leave The Airbus" is taking hold.
05-20-2016 | 09:16 AM
#7570
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,605
Likes: 12
From: A320 Left seat
320 manning is already a mess in Atl, and we've only just started deliveries. But I'd caution the Poolies... One man's "lucrative category" is another man's "I can't get any days off I want to spend with my family/kids, I can't move anything because the whole month is reserve capped, I can't get commutable trips, I'm flying my ass off for straight pay while the senior guys are rolling in Green."
I think you just described being junior in any catagory. And every nb/domestic catagory is short right now going into the summer. I've been here 16 years and im at the mercy of PBS every month on ATL 7ERB. If PBS gives me a trip on the weekend, I'm stuck working the weekend. Might as well bid an airplane with trips that are generally better/more commutable and a flight deck that has some room in it.
Just my opinion.
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