Notices

Details on Delta TA

Old 06-26-2015, 08:42 AM
  #10001  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,184
Default

Originally Posted by bohicagain View Post
In Jan 2017 ill be on 4th year pay
I can hold 330B in NYC and in 2017 my pay would be 179.51. As a E190A the pay rate is $182.

I rather sit in my bunk across the Atlantic rather than 5 legs a day
Good for you. That doesn't mean that everyone on 4th year pay will want to do that. Some people don't like time zone changes. That is why it's great to work here rather than someplace that flies only one kind of airplane. You have options. And just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't make it bad. I personally have no desire to fly the 330/777. Doesn't mean I believe they are worthless airplanes. I've had my fill of international for now. So go have fun in Amsterdam.
BenderRodriguez is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 08:57 AM
  #10002  
Gets Weekends Off
 
notEnuf's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: stake holder ir.delta.com
Posts: 9,989
Default

Could I have your definition of B scale?
notEnuf is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 09:02 AM
  #10003  
looking for underboob
 
bohicagain's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: NYC 7ER LCA
Posts: 900
Default

Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez View Post
Good for you. That doesn't mean that everyone on 4th year pay will want to do that. Some people don't like time zone changes. That is why it's great to work here rather than someplace that flies only one kind of airplane. You have options. And just because it isn't your cup of tea doesn't make it bad. I personally have no desire to fly the 330/777. Doesn't mean I believe they are worthless airplanes. I've had my fill of international for now. So go have fun in Amsterdam.
That's wasn't the point. I was comparing the pay rates.
Do you think a E190 left seat should make more than a wide body FO?

At DOS a 12 year 777B will make about $23 more than e190A but $11 less than a 717.
bohicagain is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 09:04 AM
  #10004  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,184
Default

Originally Posted by notEnuf View Post
Could I have your definition of B scale?
Mine? OK, A B scale was when the pay for all pilots was lowered for either 3 or 5 years in a lame attempt to lower pilot salaries overall. It affected ALL pilots in those years of service, not just on a specific airplane.
BenderRodriguez is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 09:05 AM
  #10005  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,184
Default

Originally Posted by bohicagain View Post
That's wasn't the point. I was comparing the pay rates.
Do you think a E190 left seat should make more than a wide body FO?

At DOS a 12 year 777B will make about $23 more than e190A but $11 less than a 717.
I don't believe in the bigger pays more pay scales anyway. They are stoopid and regressive. I am not a good one to argue that point with.

But, as I said, no one will be flying the E190 at 12 years, so that comparison is moot.
BenderRodriguez is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 09:30 AM
  #10006  
Sick of whiners
 
KnotSoFast's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Position: 767 VEOP
Posts: 507
Default

Originally Posted by bohicagain View Post
. . . Do you think a E190 left seat should make more than a wide body FO?. . .
Why, yes I do.
KnotSoFast is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 04:07 PM
  #10007  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Army80's Avatar
 
Joined APC: May 2015
Posts: 181
Default

Originally Posted by bohicagain View Post
In Jan 2017 ill be on 4th year pay
I can hold 330B in NYC and in 2017 my pay would be 179.51. As a E190A the pay rate is $182.

I rather sit in my bunk across the Atlantic rather than 5 legs a day

That's why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream; not everyone likes chocolate. I've been on the international gig for the last 12 years (ER-B and 777-B) Can't seem to make the math work out for the left seat for anything smaller than a 73N.

Lower pay for the E jet might not be fair, but I don't see it as a major issue. BTW, it wasn't all that long ago when the left seat in the ER (and the 330, I think) wasn't all that much more than $180/hour.
Army80 is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 07:59 PM
  #10008  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Big E 757's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Position: A320 Left seat
Posts: 2,570
Default

Originally Posted by Army80 View Post
That's why they make chocolate and vanilla ice cream; not everyone likes chocolate. I've been on the international gig for the last 12 years (ER-B and 777-B) Can't seem to make the math work out for the left seat for anything smaller than a 73N.

Lower pay for the E jet might not be fair, but I don't see it as a major issue. BTW, it wasn't all that long ago when the left seat in the ER (and the 330, I think) wasn't all that much more than $180/hour.
And not too much before that, it was in the neighborhood of $260 to $270 an hour. Or does that not count because we've already accepted a BK reset?
Big E 757 is offline  
Old 06-26-2015, 10:48 PM
  #10009  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Denny Crane's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: Kickin’ Back
Posts: 6,971
Default

Can someone either post or point me in the right direction to get the actual language in LOA 15-01 that is attached to this TA? Thx

Denny
Denny Crane is offline  
Old 06-27-2015, 12:29 AM
  #10010  
Gets Weekends Off
 
TenYearsGone's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: 7ERB
Posts: 2,039
Default

Originally Posted by Big E 757 View Post
And not too much before that, it was in the neighborhood of $260 to $270 an hour. Or does that not count because we've already accepted a BK reset?
Excellent reminder. Dont remind the kool aid drinkers. They dont want to be confrontational. They dont want to rock the boat. They would rather stick their head in the sand and accept a measly 8% raise as the company slowly but surely degrades our work-rules and QOL.

I will never understand.

TEN
TenYearsGone is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Kilroy
ExpressJet
10671
01-11-2016 06:49 AM
FastDEW
Major
201
09-03-2011 06:42 AM
Quagmire
Major
253
04-16-2011 06:19 AM
ksatflyer
Hangar Talk
10
08-20-2008 09:14 PM
INAV8OR
Mergers and Acquisitions
66
05-15-2008 04:37 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices