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Old 06-25-2015, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ImTumbleweed View Post
Oh, and back to discussing the TA.

Let's get parked at the NMB for a few years...

Not get harassed when calling in sick...

Not give up widebody jobs...No B-Scale for junior folks...

AND cash our Profit Sharing Checks...

While we say...

Wait a minute, don't we get harassed now when we call in sick?

I missed the part in the TA about giving up wide body jobs. Where is that?

Also, doesn't this TA get rid of the B scale as it relates to the E190?
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Old 06-25-2015, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog View Post
What happens when a LCA gets his bid with this new 2015 process and isn't happy with the trips. On the 20th he drops one of the ones that was pulled from the bid package and picks up a different trip. Now that trip that wasn't available to fill an FOs line is now in open time for both A and B?

Oh, we don't think they'll do that....
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Old 06-25-2015, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotFrog View Post
What happens when a LCA gets his bid with this new 2015 process and isn't happy with the trips. On the 20th he drops one of the ones that was pulled from the bid package and picks up a different trip. Now that trip that wasn't available to fill an FOs line is now in open time for both A and B?
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
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for the Captains.

There will be more on reserve on the FO side to pick up said trip.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:31 PM
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Heres a good chit chat point:


If, and it's a big if, this deal is worth 1.1B over it's 3 year life and Delta reports profits of around 2B for the second quarter, which is what's expected, the whole TA improvement will have been paid for by Delta in about 45 days. But this is the best we can get.
I'm going to double post this in the tafacts thread.
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Old 06-25-2015, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1234 View Post
Wait a minute, don't we get harassed now when we call in sick?

I missed the part in the TA about giving up wide body jobs. Where is that?

Also, doesn't this TA get rid of the B scale as it relates to the E190?
Read the new TA. I have.

I am shocked at how bad it is.

When reading it, just read what is "legally" and "contractually" allowed, and binding. Don't listen to anyone saying "these are their intentions". Intentions don't mean ****, just the legally binding stuff.

Read it and get back to us.

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Old 06-26-2015, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234 View Post

Also, doesn't this TA get rid of the B scale as it relates to the E190?
B scale? Seriously?
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez View Post
B scale? Seriously?
Industry standard?
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:25 AM
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Industry standard?
Whose E190s pay more? I only took a cursory look at it to see that the captains pay for 3rd and 4th year guys pay more than anything they would likely be able to hold at that point. I'm not bidding it, but if I were a newbie I would consider it. Being the king doesn't suck.
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Old 06-26-2015, 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BenderRodriguez View Post
Whose E190s pay more? I only took a cursory look at it to see that the captains pay for 3rd and 4th year guys pay more than anything they would likely be able to hold at that point. I'm not bidding it, but if I were a newbie I would consider it. Being the king doesn't suck.
I'm a new guy (1yr) on the 717...
Wouldn't even consider it. $130 to get beat up for 5 legs a day on an RJ vs $130 to fly as a FO on the ER at 2 to 3 year pay... Seems like a tough choice. Think I'll bid ER and go see Europe some more.
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