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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 1918035)
So vote yes or we're going to get Comair'd?
YGTBSM It is right on Harwood's list of "strategic planning" reasons to ratify the TA. The Comair pilots made Mr. Anderson upset. He shut down the airline. We better not upset him or he might shut down Delta Air Lines too. The MEC also uses the example of onboard duty-free. The company who had that contract made Mr. Anderson upset. He stopped onboard duty-free sales. I guess that is supposed to mean that we better ratify this TA or Mr. Anderson will stop using pilots. If you can't tell - ridiculous illogical scare tactics make me upset. We are NOT in a weak bargaining position. The MEC is lying when they imply that we are. |
and we ALL know hourly rates are sacrosanct.....and have NEVER been reduced due to economic upheaval and unfair competition in the airline industry.
I can only come up with one word in response to this nonsensical logic.... INCONCIEVEABLE! |
Since some pilots who would have been bought off will now fly something else, the net result could be a few more pilots on reserve. And those trips that were wanted by an FO that were pulled, they end up in open time after the lca swaps or drops them. But... some compromise was needed to achieve the gains in this agreement. The gains affect all pilots on the seniority list regardless of seat position. Specifically, improved reroute language, rotation construction and trip mix were top priorities for the Atlanta pilots. |
Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 1918088)
We are NOT in a weak bargaining position. The MEC is lying when they imply that we are.
So ask yourself one simple question: Do you want to vote YES to a TA when our own union is lying to us about it? Carl |
I will say the biggest reason to vote for it is the fear of what happens if you vote no. That's what I'm seeing by fence sitters.
They're aiming right at age 55 guys and up with that. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1918117)
I will say the biggest reason to vote for it is the fear of what happens if you vote no. That's what I'm seeing by fence sitters.
They're aiming right at age 55 guys and up with that. |
Originally Posted by texavia
(Post 1918132)
63 and hell NO!
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Originally Posted by texavia
(Post 1918132)
63 and hell NO!
I think that's the focus. It is age all a majority of the airline and they sure have a lot of data probably to determine the key demographic. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1918156)
And luckily you're not the only one but talked to a 55 year old very nervous about going down swa path no raise in his last 10 years. Doesn't like the contract at all but... no raise.
I think that's the focus. It is age all a majority of the airline and they sure have a lot of data probably to determine the key demographic. This contract will ruin his last 10 years. The longer ya got left, the more ya should oppose this TA. Whether an old dog or just a pup, it's all down hill if this passes. |
Originally Posted by BobZ
(Post 1918091)
and we ALL know hourly rates are sacrosanct.....and have NEVER been reduced due to economic upheaval and unfair competition in the airline industry.
I can only come up with one word in response to this nonsensical logic.... INCONCIEVEABLE! You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. . |
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